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    Oklahoma passed a bill, it is awaiting the Governor signature, making it a felony to preform an abortion unless it is to save the mother's life. The bill has NO chance of being in effect even one day. Oklahoma will spend many a day working on this court case.

    http://newsok.com/article/5499086

    The Oklahoma Senate gave final passage on Thursday to a bill that makes it a felony to perform an abortion.

    Sen. Nathan Dahm, the author of the bill, said a court challenge is to be expected.
    The Governor has signed 18 bills into law that restrict abortions, so far 0 of them are in effect.
    “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
    “To talk of many things:
    Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
    Of cabbages—and kings—
    And why the sea is boiling hot—
    And whether pigs have wings.”
    ― Lewis Carroll

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    But they force pro-abortionists to spend legal fees, and keeps the atmosphere charged and contentious.

    Meanwhile, while they generate drama and keep the baby-killers busy, pro-life activists are chipping away at abortion from other directions.

    For example, the North Dakota method (named for the first state it was attempted) gets a rider inserted which requires any facility where surgical procedures to meet hospital zoning standards. That means extra-wide doorways, gurney-friendly hallways, and the like. Not a word about abortion in it.

    Closed down every one but one abortion clinic in ND.

    And so forth. Drama for distraction.
    Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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    • #3
      While it is unfortunate that the State must waste money, it seems you are suggesting that the State submit to rule by the threat of lawsuits (extortion) rather than the will of the voting public.

      Presumably, the voters in Ok elected these people and the legislators and Gov. are acting in a manner consistent with the will of the voting public, rather than the people who are suing them.

      Would you recommend that abortion rights be suspended if the State was facing a rash of lawsuits to ban it?
      Avatar is General Gerard, courtesy of Zouave.

      Churchill to Chamberlain: you had a choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor, and you will have war.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
        But they force pro-abortionists to spend legal fees, and keeps the atmosphere charged and contentious.

        Meanwhile, while they generate drama and keep the baby-killers busy, pro-life activists are chipping away at abortion from other directions.

        For example, the North Dakota method (named for the first state it was attempted) gets a rider inserted which requires any facility where surgical procedures to meet hospital zoning standards. That means extra-wide doorways, gurney-friendly hallways, and the like. Not a word about abortion in it.

        Closed down every one but one abortion clinic in ND.

        And so forth. Drama for distraction.
        If one is going to do surgical procedures, one has to meet legal standards. Abortions are surgical procedures, not to be performed in living rooms, garges or former store fronts.

        I have had a number of outpatient surgical procedures done on me over the last year-and-a-half, and every single building has met those standards.

        Suppose just for a moment that something goes wrong during an abortion and immediate hospitalization is required. The ability to get the patient onto a gurney and out of the door is paramount, period.

        I've had extensive experience in settings that did not take this into account, and things do not go well.
        Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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        • #5
          The bill I'd love to see some state do on this issue is to eliminate all child support requirements for unmarried couples. That is, if a female gets pregnant from casual sex with a partner to whom she is not married, she's entitled to NOTHING!

          After all, "It's a woman's right to choose." Then choose. Leave your sperm donor out of it. That's "Fair and Equal."

          Want to bet that births out of wedlock would plummet?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
            The bill I'd love to see some state do on this issue is to eliminate all child support requirements for unmarried couples. That is, if a female gets pregnant from casual sex with a partner to whom she is not married, she's entitled to NOTHING!

            After all, "It's a woman's right to choose." Then choose. Leave your sperm donor out of it. That's "Fair and Equal."

            Want to bet that births out of wedlock would plummet?
            Interesting.
            Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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