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  • Opinion Piece: The Trump-Sanders Two-Step

    The Trump-Sanders Two-Step

    Sandersí and Trumpís styles and affects are very different ó the rumpled oddball lecturer in Socialism 101 vs. the boastful, power-tie-wearing business mogul ó but they have worked in tandem to ensure that the center of gravity in this fallís presidential election will be further to the left than it has been in decades.
    Is the country as a whole even the right wing moving a bit to the left with its Trump support?

    If there is a right wing move to the supposed left is it just a bit of shrugging off the coast so to speak of the religious right finally and becoming a bit more libertarian?
    Last edited by A7V; 19 May 16, 14:20.

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    Better than the Clinton back-step-side-step-duck-and-cover.
    Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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    • #3
      In a word, no.

      Sanders is a nutjob.

      Trump is getting support because he is seen as the candidate who can beat Hillary.
      Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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      • #4
        Trump is Sheriff Joe Arpaio on a national level. I keep saying this and now the local news people here in AZ have woken up to that fact. This op ed is by a fairly Progressive writer.

        http://www.azcentral.com/story/opini...rump/84450746/

        When Arpaio entered politics in Arizona, first winning election in 1992, the rules seemed to change. He said outrageous things, made outrageous claims, staged outrageous stunts, just about none of which had anything to do with law enforcement. And he still was reelected. He was an Obama "birther." He made wild accusations about other politicians. He is found in contempt of court. He costs taxpayers tens of million in payouts.

        And for more than 20 years heís gotten away with it.

        Arpaio on a local scale is Trump on the national scale.
        Arpaio has been elected 6 times. He is likely to be again this year. I think the guy's an @$$ and vote against him. The Progressives / Left / Liberals hate him with a passion. He sets their hair on fire. Yet, no matter what they do he wins.
        He's Trump to a tee. Arpaio wins elections. If I were putting money on the Presidential election it'd be on Trump to do just like Arpaio.

        Hillary is dislikable, even despicable. That is a major problem for her and Sanders shows it's true.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by A7V View Post
          The Trump-Sanders Two-Step



          Is the country as a whole even the right wing moving a bit to the left with its Trump support?

          If there is a right wing move to the supposed left is it just a bit of shrugging off the coast so to speak of the religious right finally and becoming a bit more libertarian?
          Is it possible that the country was never quite as 'right wing' as it seemed? A lot of those who lean 'right' on 'moral' issues lean a lot more 'left' on economics. The genius of Reagan was to get them to focus on the one & overlook the other somewhat. Maybe that formula has broken down, partly due to the impact of the GFC, partly due to the rightward drift of the GOP itself.

          Maybe this is just something that has always been there finding its voice again. Something to consider.
          Human beings are the only creatures on Earth that claim a god and the only living thing that behaves like it hasn't got one - Hunter S. Thompson

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BF69 View Post
            Is it possible that the country was never quite as 'right wing' as it seemed? A lot of those who lean 'right' on 'moral' issues lean a lot more 'left' on economics. The genius of Reagan was to get them to focus on the one & overlook the other somewhat. Maybe that formula has broken down, partly due to the impact of the GFC, partly due to the rightward drift of the GOP itself.

            Maybe this is just something that has always been there finding its voice again. Something to consider.
            Not at all. Its wishful dreaming by the OP, and a culture barrier for you.

            Sanders is still in the game because too many Democrats have lost faith in Hillary. There is no greater meaning in this situation than that.
            Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
              He's Trump to a tee. Arpaio wins elections. If I were putting money on the Presidential election it'd be on Trump to do just like Arpaio.

              Hillary is dislikable, even despicable. That is a major problem for her and Sanders shows it's true.
              That is the entire situation in a nutshell.

              Trump is a salesman. And a very good one.
              Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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              • #8
                What type of used cars does he sell?
                "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                youíre entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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