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  • #31
    Originally posted by Skoblin View Post
    The people getting holier than thou are Trudeau's liberals, who lambasted this deal when they were in opposition and then issued the necessary export licenses as soon as they got into power.
    So what are you crying about...the Conservatives are now doing the same thing....along with some guy from Quebec who wouldnt be saying anything if these units were built in Quebec....then we have mutterings from south of the border who would sell their mothers for a dollar......as long as the units were made in their state/province....

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Sparlingo View Post
      The government was in favour and it got voted down in the Senate because they wanted them built in Canada.
      No it was because the opposition wanted a coastal defence based on torpedo boats and destroyers - far cheaper than battleships. The plan was always to build them in British yards - Canada simply didn't have the capacity, Canada would just raise loans to pay for them and provide crews that would be trained by the RN. Australia and New Zealand went along with the scheme but Canada left a big hole in the Imperial defence strategy which was only partially plugged in 1914 by seizing Turkish battleships being built in British yards.
      Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
      Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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      • #33
        Originally posted by MarkV View Post
        No it was because the opposition wanted a coastal defence based on torpedo boats and destroyers - far cheaper than battleships. The plan was always to build them in British yards - Canada simply didn't have the capacity, Canada would just raise loans to pay for them and provide crews that would be trained by the RN. Australia and New Zealand went along with the scheme but Canada left a big hole in the Imperial defence strategy which was only partially plugged in 1914 by seizing Turkish battleships being built in British yards.
        Well the government was in favour, but it got defeated in the Liberal controlled Senate:

        " At the urging of the Admiralty's First Sea Lord Sir Winston Churchill, Prime Minister Borden agreed to finance the construction of three dreadnoughts for $35 million.[8] This plan was far more costly than Laurier's original plan of the Canadian-built fleet, and would reap no benefits to Canadian industries whatsoever. On 5 December 1912, Borden introduced the Naval Aid Bill as a one-time contribution to the British Royal Navy. After a bitter debate and a long filibuster by the opposition Liberals, the Borden government invoked cloture on the debate, for the first time ever in Canadian Parliament, and the bill passed third reading on 15 May 1913. The Act was soundly defeated by the Liberal-majority Senate two weeks later."

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        • #34
          If they're Islamic terrorists Canada should offer bacon in exchange for the hostages...

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          • #35
            Here's an interesting listen from the former commander of JTF2 on Canada's options with the remaining hostages in the PHILIPPINES

            Sound cloud - former JTF2 commander

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            • #36
              Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
              If they're Islamic terrorists Canada should offer bacon in exchange for the hostages...
              Give 'em pigs...let them make their own bacon. And be sure to strap a bomb to each and every pig.
              Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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