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    I stand with Canada!

    Canada will not pay ransoms for the release of its citizens held hostage overseas, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Tuesday after the gruesome killing of a Canadian in the Philippines.

    “Canada does not and will not pay ransom to terrorists, directly or indirectly,” Trudeau said, vowing instead to hunt down and prosecute hostage-takers.

    His comments come after Trudeau delivered the grim news on Monday that Canadian John Ridsdel had been killed by his captors - the Abu Sayyaf militant group - in the Philippines. Efforts, however, were continuing to try to secure the release of three others, including another Canadian national, he said.

    In decrying ransom payouts, Trudeau explained that they helped to support criminal or terrorist activities, and “endangered the lives of every single one of the millions of Canadians who live, work and travel around the globe” as they could become targets for abduction.

    Trudeau said that he and British Prime Minister David Cameron agreed in a telephone conversation earlier to press allies on the issue.

    http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News...e-ransoms.html
    Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
    Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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    I hate the arrogant son of a communist but he's right this time the government should not ever pay terrorists for a ransom that's why we have JTF2 to deal with these aholes either before or after the fact.

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    • #3
      Too bad Canada does not have a Parachute Infantry Battalion any more. They would be available to hold live fire exercises with the Philippine Army on the island the hostages are being held on. The Canadian Navy could isolate the island as well. My bet is the locals come and go as they want.

      Time for a little Gunboat Diplomacy.

      Pruitt
      Pruitt, you are truly an expert! Kelt06

      Have you been struck by the jawbone of an ASS lately?

      by Khepesh "This is the logic of Pruitt"

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      • #4
        Originally posted by VinceW View Post
        I hate the arrogant son of a communist but he's right this time the government should not ever pay terrorists for a ransom that's why we have JTF2 to deal with these aholes either before or after the fact.
        Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
        Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Pruitt View Post
          Too bad Canada does not have a Parachute Infantry Battalion any more. They would be available to hold live fire exercises with the Philippine Army on the island the hostages are being held on. The Canadian Navy could isolate the island as well. My bet is the locals come and go as they want.

          Time for a little Gunboat Diplomacy.

          Pruitt
          We do have an Airborne Battalion battle group it's spread out between the 3 Reg force Brigades.
          The 3rd Infantry Battalion of each of the 3 Battalion Infantry Regiments has a Para Company along with the other support units with Mortars,Combat Engineers,Artillery and Service supply.

          It would take up to a few months but we can put together a Para Battalion battle group.
          We have Special Operations forces like JTF2 and CSOR to deal with the piece of s$&ts who just murdered the Canadian in the Phillipines.

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          • #6
            Canada will pay.
            They all pay.
            But we don't know when and how.
            That rug really tied the room together

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Pruitt View Post
              Too bad Canada does not have a Parachute Infantry Battalion any more. They would be available to hold live fire exercises with the Philippine Army on the island the hostages are being held on. The Canadian Navy could isolate the island as well. My bet is the locals come and go as they want.

              Time for a little Gunboat Diplomacy.

              Pruitt
              Yes sir, pay the ransom in ordnance.....
              ALL LIVES SPLATTER!

              BLACK JEEPS MATTER!

              BLACK MOTORCYCLES MATTER!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Gixxer86g View Post
                Yes sir, pay the ransom in ordnance.....
                We are. We just finished selling $15 billion in weapons and ordnance to the Saudis. You know, the guys that fund terrorists..

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Skoblin View Post
                  We are. We just finished selling $15 billion in weapons and ordnance to the Saudis. You know, the guys that fund terrorists..
                  And if Canada didnt sell them the weapons systems and employ people making them , then somebody else would either the Brits, US or French...so dont get all holier than thou on us...

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                  • #10
                    "We never pay any-one Dane-geld,
                    No matter how trifling the cost;
                    For the end of that game is oppression and shame,
                    And the nation that pays it is lost!"

                    http://www.poetryloverspage.com/poet...dane_geld.html
                    Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
                    Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bow View Post
                      And if Canada didnt sell them the weapons systems and employ people making them , then somebody else would either the Brits, US or French...so dont get all holier than thou on us...
                      The people getting holier than thou are Trudeau's liberals, who lambasted this deal when they were in opposition and then issued the necessary export licenses as soon as they got into power.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post

                        I stand with Canada!

                        Canada will not pay ransoms for the release of its citizens held hostage overseas, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Tuesday after the gruesome killing of a Canadian in the Philippines.

                        “Canada does not and will not pay ransom to terrorists, directly or indirectly,” Trudeau said, vowing instead to hunt down and prosecute hostage-takers.

                        His comments come after Trudeau delivered the grim news on Monday that Canadian John Ridsdel had been killed by his captors - the Abu Sayyaf militant group - in the Philippines. Efforts, however, were continuing to try to secure the release of three others, including another Canadian national, he said.

                        In decrying ransom payouts, Trudeau explained that they helped to support criminal or terrorist activities, and “endangered the lives of every single one of the millions of Canadians who live, work and travel around the globe” as they could become targets for abduction.

                        Trudeau said that he and British Prime Minister David Cameron agreed in a telephone conversation earlier to press allies on the issue.

                        http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News...e-ransoms.html
                        Now we will wait and see if Canada ever brings the terrorist murderer to justice. Chances are slim to none.

                        Talk is cheap when it's not your own life on the line, or a a member of your own family. I'm sure the families of the hostages will take great comfort from the "firm stance" of a politician.

                        In the real world governments have two choices - either pay a ransom or immediately go all out to destroy the terrorist and everyone associated with him.


                        Canada doesn't even maintain a real Army, let alone the kind of special ops units that America routinely deploys, so how do you propose this to bring terrorist in a terrorist nation "to justice"? Strong words? Threaten him with a lawsuit?

                        Or will this be another case of "get the Americans to do it"?


                        Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Skoblin View Post
                          The people getting holier than thou are Trudeau's liberals, who lambasted this deal when they were in opposition and then issued the necessary export licenses as soon as they got into power.
                          Political hypocrisy of this nature is not new to Canada. When prohibition was introduced in Canada the government did not want the distilleries etc to close - thus creating unemployment and the drinks industry also still had some political clout. So they were licensed for export and a government subsidy for producing alcohol for export was paid. In fact most of their production was run across the border and ended up with bootleggers and speakeasies in the USA!
                          Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
                          Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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                          • #14
                            Do you recall ...

                            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                            Now we will wait and see if Canada ever brings the terrorist murderer to justice. Chances are slim to none.

                            Talk is cheap when it's not your own life on the line, or a a member of your own family. I'm sure the families of the hostages will take great comfort from the "firm stance" of a politician.

                            In the real world governments have two choices - either pay a ransom or immediately go all out to destroy the terrorist and everyone associated with him.


                            Canada doesn't even maintain a real Army, let alone the kind of special ops units that America routinely deploys, so how do you propose this to bring terrorist in a terrorist nation "to justice"? Strong words? Threaten him with a lawsuit?

                            Or will this be another case of "get the Americans to do it"?


                            ... the abductions and beheadings of Americans in Iraq? I can tell you that several of the perpetrators were brought to justice by Canadian snipers, brought in to assist. You'd be surprised to hear where JTF2 have been, what they can do, and what they've been involved in, even though Canada has never been officially involved. I'll leave it at that.
                            "I am Groot"
                            - Groot

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Gixxer86g View Post
                              Yes sir, pay the ransom in ordnance.....
                              My feelings exactly...and make sure to give them a really good exchange rate. Lots and lots of ordnance for a single hostage. Make sure there's enough to go around for everybody!
                              Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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