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  • #61
    Well, the US could always just tell the Russians "If one of your jets comes in that low to one of our ships and tries to buzz it, we'll shoot it down. And you have the right to do the same if one of ours buzzes one of your ships."

    Make it the same standard, and boom - issue resolved.

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    • #62
      Light'em up with the targeting radars next time! Russian hear that warning tone in their helmets and they won't be back.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
        Nothing, Russian jets were shot down by Turkey and they didn't respond. We buzz Chinese land with bombers and they don't respond either.
        Flying at 12,000 feet isn't "buzzing", and those artificial islands aren't exactly Chinese "land".

        Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
        Well, the US could always just tell the Russians "If one of your jets comes in that low to one of our ships and tries to buzz it, we'll shoot it down. And you have the right to do the same if one of ours buzzes one of your ships."

        Make it the same standard, and boom - issue resolved.
        Like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500 ...
        "Why is the Rum gone?"

        -Captain Jack

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        • #64
          Youze guys are silly. They are trying to get us to power up the radar array. They gain intel on the bands that we search on and learn how to jam them...

          So no, you don't light them up unless necessary...
          Credo quia absurdum.


          Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman

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          • #65
            A Stinger MANPAD would work at those ranges and speeds. It's also deniable (maybe).

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Bwaha View Post
              Youze guys are silly. They are trying to get us to power up the radar array. They gain intel on the bands that we search on and learn how to jam them...

              So no, you don't light them up unless necessary...
              This is true in this particular case.

              I suspect that's why the helo was hanging around.

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              • #67
                Regardless of why they did it, it is a dangerous game that is being played. An accident, a suicidal pilot ($hit happens - look at the pilot who crashed the passenger jet as an example), or someone who sympathizes with terrorists, etc., if we let our guard down and think these fly-byes are simply games being played, we will be sorry. It only takes one instance to wreak havoc and death.
                "War is hell, but actual combat is a motherf#cker"
                - Col. David Hackworth

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                • #68
                  Looking at the list of NATO countries surrounding Russia we're "buzzing" them constantly
                  Major Atticus Finch - ACW Rainbow Game.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Snowygerry View Post
                    Looking at the list of NATO countries surrounding Russia we're "buzzing" them constantly
                    Could you please explain/demonstrate/illustrate where NATO is 'surrounding' Russia?
                    We are not now that strength which in old days
                    Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                    Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                    To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Snowygerry View Post
                      Looking at the list of NATO countries surrounding Russia we're "buzzing" them constantly
                      Surrounding! Come off it - looked at a map recently? The majority of countries that share a border with Russia are not in NATO
                      Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
                      Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
                        23 October, 1996.
                        Of course, the principles of navigation and aeronautics were different, just like international laws and everything else, and how can you compare the goose and the gander!

                        Gotcha means gotcha, have the courage to suck it up.
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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Johan Banér View Post
                          Apparently in Russia ("Regnum", Russian govt news outlet, publishing a list for this) it can be claimed that the country is almost as close to being at war with Sweden as it is with Ukraine — 70 vs 75 on a 100 scale, where 100 means open war).

                          Turkey at 80 is even closer. Interestingly Russia would be considerd be to as close to war with Norway.

                          But at 85 Romania and Moldova jointly take the cake.
                          http://regnum.ru/news/polit/2092473.html
                          If you drop this absolutely irrelevant crap about Ukraine, the bottom line is

                          1. The Swedish pilot behaved in an extremely unprofessional manner and punished himself for this.

                          2. As point 1 shows, "unprofessional" behaviour is not the exclusive privilege of the Russian Army as the Bash Russia team here suggests, but the other armies as well.

                          3. The Russian pilot was far less "unprofessional" than the Swedish one, who not only performed a high risk maneuver, but crashed his antiquated piece of junk close to a nuclear cruiser. Which was a million times more dangerous incident than the one the Bash Russia team is now pissing in their collective diapers about.
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by ShAA View Post
                            Of course, the principles of navigation and aeronautics were different, just like international laws and everything else, and how can you compare the goose and the gander!

                            Gotcha means gotcha, have the courage to suck it up.
                            As a tip, you would be better served by finding an example of an American plane buzzing a Russian ship from this century. But good on you for trying.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by ShAA View Post
                              If you drop this absolutely irrelevant crap about Ukraine, the bottom line is

                              1. The Swedish pilot behaved in an extremely unprofessional manner and punished himself for this.

                              2. As point 1 shows, "unprofessional" behaviour is not the exclusive privilege of the Russian Army as the Bash Russia team here suggests, but the other armies as well.

                              3. The Russian pilot was far less "unprofessional" than the Swedish one, who not only performed a high risk maneuver, but crashed his antiquated piece of junk close to a nuclear cruiser. Which was a million times more dangerous incident than the one the Bash Russia team is now pissing in their collective diapers about.
                              If you drop the insults and disparagement of things just generally, that amounts to: "Right or wrong, my country!"

                              You've got the entire Cold War to draw on. Plenty of both Swedish and Soviet aircraft lost back then. Why don't you? Since Russians these days seem so very keen on refighting it?

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by ShAA View Post

                                3. The Russian pilot was far less "unprofessional" than the Swedish one, who not only performed a high risk maneuver, but crashed his antiquated piece of junk close to a nuclear cruiser. Which was a million times more dangerous incident than the one the Bash Russia team is now pissing in their collective diapers about.
                                What do you think about the Russian bomber that crashed while buzzing a US aircraft carrier?

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