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  • Half Pint John
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    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
    CLEARLY campaigning on a subway is forcing a captive audience to listen to you, which violates so many Constitutional rights of so many people that it probably ought to have a special category of its own in the Guinness Book of Records.

    It's no different that preaching or soliciting against the will of the citizen.

    Duh, you'll have trouble talking to a person in front of you. Subways are not the best place to try to carry on a conversation. The are loud and noisy.

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  • lakechampainer
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    I would ask again - have there been recent prosecutions of this?

    I would ask - do we want a New York Transit System Policeperson to decide on their own to stop a Presidential candidate from campaigning?

    Do we want to live in a society where we have laws on the books that we don't know about/aren't enforced systematically, which puts the police/the government in a position of hassling anybody they want?

    Have any of the people on the subway filed a complaint or a lawsuit? Would you file a complaint if you were there, or would you, like me, think it was great to see a presidential candidate?

    I guess society isn't as bad as some make out, if this is an "actionable" problem. I myself am more concerned about immigration, the unbalanced budget, Big Brother, the centralization of government, the growing polarization of our society etc.

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by lakechampainer View Post
    Pretty clearly it would be restricting free speech to prevent someone from campaigning on a subway. It would clearly be against public policy to tell a presidential candidate they can't campaign somewhere. Perhaps it could be argued there is a public policy reason not to have people campaigning for dog catcher and making the subways less efficient.

    Have there been recent prosecutions of this, and what were the results?

    http://legal-dictionary.thefreedicti.../Public+Policy

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    Public Policy


    Also found in: Dictionary, Thesaurus, Medical, Encyclopedia, Wikipedia. Public Policy

    A principle that no person or government official can legally perform an act that tends to injure the public.
    Public policy manifests the common sense and common conscience of the citizens as a whole that extends throughout the state and is applied to matters of public health, safety, and welfare. It is general, well-settled public opinion relating to the duties of citizens to their fellow citizens. It imports something that fluctuates with the changing economic needs, social customs, and moral aspirations of the people. Public policy enters into, and influences, the enactment, execution, and interpretation of legislation.
    West's Encyclopedia of American Law, edition 2. Copyright 2008 The Gale Group, Inc. All rights reserved.
    CLEARLY campaigning on a subway is forcing a captive audience to listen to you, which violates so many Constitutional rights of so many people that it probably ought to have a special category of its own in the Guinness Book of Records.

    It's no different that preaching or soliciting against the will of the citizen.

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  • MarkV
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    I think some people need to get out more often

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  • lakechampainer
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    Pretty clearly it would be restricting free speech to prevent someone from campaigning on a subway. It would clearly be against public policy to tell a presidential candidate they can't campaign somewhere. Perhaps it could be argued there is a public policy reason not to have people campaigning for dog catcher and making the subways less efficient.

    Have there been recent prosecutions of this, and what were the results?

    http://legal-dictionary.thefreedicti.../Public+Policy

    excerpt

    Public Policy


    Also found in: Dictionary, Thesaurus, Medical, Encyclopedia, Wikipedia. Public Policy

    A principle that no person or government official can legally perform an act that tends to injure the public.
    Public policy manifests the common sense and common conscience of the citizens as a whole that extends throughout the state and is applied to matters of public health, safety, and welfare. It is general, well-settled public opinion relating to the duties of citizens to their fellow citizens. It imports something that fluctuates with the changing economic needs, social customs, and moral aspirations of the people. Public policy enters into, and influences, the enactment, execution, and interpretation of legislation.
    West's Encyclopedia of American Law, edition 2. Copyright 2008 The Gale Group, Inc. All rights reserved.
    Last edited by lakechampainer; 09 Apr 16, 10:17.

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  • SRV Ron
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    The Hildabeast breaks another law? What else is new.

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  • Half Pint John
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    Taking the subway and talking to others isn't illegal.

    Trying to be heard on the subway isn't that easy.

    Traveling in NYC, the fastest way is still...the subway.

    You need to find something else to do and find something important to report on the candidates.

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    The Hildabeast breaks another law

    Seems she went campaigning on the NYC subway system.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...Kz&ocid=SMSDHP

    Hillary Clinton may have broken New York Metropolitan Transportation Authority rules when she took a ride on a subway car Thursday.

    MTA rules state no person "shall engage in any nontransit uses" on subway cars, including public speaking and campaigning. Violators could face fines of up to $125 in civil and criminal penalties, as pointed out by a Guardian contributor.

    During her ride, Clinton interacted with subway patrons while flanked by security and media.
    Of course, the rules don't apply to her. Bet she "jumped" the turnstiles too...

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