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  • Teacher lets kids watch Fifty Shades of Grey, and major battle begins

    Brief synopsis; teacher on field trip lets a group of 17 year olds watch Fifty Shades of Grey. Mother of 14 year old girl on said field trip that did not watch the movie chooses to make an issue about the movie that her daughter did not watch. You cannot make stuff like this up.

    What started out as a little extracurricular movie viewing has now turned into a bit of a slap fight between a teacher named Robyn Schoeneman and a parent named Christa Reinert, with Schoeneman accusing Reinert of harassment, intimidation and slander and enacting a restraining order against her. Reinert, for her part, says she hasn't harassed anyone and calls the restraining order politically motivated.
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/p...hptp&ocid=iehp
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    Good to see that teachers are seeking out field trips that will enable their students to succeed in life.
    Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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    • #3
      Welcome to the latest group of American self-proclaimed victims - those who weren't even therein the first place!

      Hard to imagine any valid grounds for this lady's protest, but the odds are high that her own daughter is already sexually active.

      Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
        Good to see that teachers are seeking out field trips that will enable their students to succeed in life.
        Wall Street and Billions were already sold out.
        Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
          Good to see that teachers are seeking out field trips that will enable their students to succeed in life.
          It's the lack of common sense on both sides of this argument that I find amusing! Correct me if I am wrong but isn't this cheesy movie R rated? If I was a teacher I would not show it even to kids that are old enough to watch. But with that being said what is the issue with the woman complaining? Her kid did not see it.
          Give me a fast ship and the wind at my back for I intend to sail in harms way! (John Paul Jones)

          Initiated Chief Petty Officer
          Hard core! Old School! Deal with it!

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          • #6
            First of all, badly written article. The writer seems to put the blame on the carload of 17 year old girls for watching the movie that the school board member and teacher rented for them to watch. The blame should be assigned to the adults in that situation...the movie is at least controversial and if the teacher and board member had any sense at all they would have said no, let's rent something else. They should be criticized for poor judgement at least, and if the board member's up for reelection the voters should definitely take note that she's not much in the common sense department. Sounds like the adults let the kids push them around too...they said in the article they 'caved' after the kids convinced her to rent it, said they'd all seen it already etc. Not sure if I'd want this teacher or board member chaperoning my kid if they cave in to kids' suggestions this easily.

            That being said, it does sound like the parent is using this incident as a way to campaign for her own spot on the school board a bit. It does mention the parent announced her own bid for the school board after this incident so maybe the parent just thinks she would do a better job than this obviously substandard school board member. Maybe she's right too, but if she's legitimately harassing the teacher that probably won't help her chances.

            Most schools, teachers, and districts shy away from anything remotely controversial when doing something like showing movies to kids, so even if the girls were old enough and the movie isn't all that bad (I haven't seen it so have no idea) it's still questionable judgement on the part of the adults. Not all these girls were adults and they were making decisions that some of the parents may not agree with (even some of the parents of those girls that actually watched it.) The complaining parent might actually just be concerned about that lack of judgement even if her own kid didn't see the movie--she's allowed to be concerned about the kids in general.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
              Good to see that teachers are seeking out field trips that will enable their students to succeed in life.
              We had a science teacher show 'The Day After Tomorrow" during science class several years ago. I was hoping they were just being ironic, or showing how far from scientific Hollywood can go, but I'm not so sure. Seemed like they thought it was a good lesson on climate change, especially the giant supertanker floating in 4 feet of water down the streets of Manhattan with wolves aboard for some reason.

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              • #8
                The movie is rated R.

                R Restricted. Under 17 requires accompanying parent or adult guardian.

                If it was my call I'd sic the cops on the 'adults'...
                Credo quia absurdum.


                Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman

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                • #9
                  Fifty Shades of Grey, for those not familiar with it, is a mediocre movie that borders on pornography (which, is a major reason it's mediocre... It focuses on sex rather than the plot).

                  As a book it was a well written, if somewhat typical erotic romance novel (as if there were really any other sort). That is, it was women's porn as book.

                  The movie has repeated scenes of BDSM (Bondage..etc.). They are graphic.

                  There is no educational value in this movie whatsoever at the high school level and damn near zero at the collegiate level. One doesn't have to do more than read reviews of the movie to gain that insight.

                  As for movies in class in general... Unless things have changed dramatically, and I doubt they have, showing one other than for the students to critically review is worthless as a learning experience.

                  I also agree with the implied content of Steve573's post above. When it comes to science and movies, good science that is teachable from them is nearly non-existent, particularly ones on Gorebal Warming like The Day After Tomorrow or An Inconvenient Truth.

                  But, with regard to the OP: There is no reason for 17 year old kids of either sex to be watching a hard R rated (should be more like NC-17) movie about sex and BDSM, none whatsoever.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bass_Man86 View Post
                    It's the lack of common sense on both sides of this argument that I find amusing! Correct me if I am wrong but isn't this cheesy movie R rated? If I was a teacher I would not show it even to kids that are old enough to watch. But with that being said what is the issue with the woman complaining? Her kid did not see it.
                    Because in two years her kid could be in that teacher's class.
                    Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                      Fifty Shades of Grey, for those not familiar with it, is a mediocre movie that borders on pornography (which, is a major reason it's mediocre... It focuses on sex rather than the plot).

                      As a book it was a well written, if somewhat typical erotic romance novel (as if there were really any other sort). That is, it was women's porn as book.

                      The movie has repeated scenes of BDSM (Bondage..etc.). They are graphic.

                      There is no educational value in this movie whatsoever at the high school level and damn near zero at the collegiate level. One doesn't have to do more than read reviews of the movie to gain that insight.

                      As for movies in class in general... Unless things have changed dramatically, and I doubt they have, showing one other than for the students to critically review is worthless as a learning experience.

                      I also agree with the implied content of Steve573's post above. When it comes to science and movies, good science that is teachable from them is nearly non-existent, particularly ones on Gorebal Warming like The Day After Tomorrow or An Inconvenient Truth.

                      But, with regard to the OP: There is no reason for 17 year old kids of either sex to be watching a hard R rated (should be more like NC-17) movie about sex and BDSM, none whatsoever.
                      It started out as Twilight fan porn, just as a side note.
                      Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Steve573 View Post
                        We had a science teacher show 'The Day After Tomorrow" during science class several years ago. I was hoping they were just being ironic, or showing how far from scientific Hollywood can go, but I'm not so sure. Seemed like they thought it was a good lesson on climate change, especially the giant supertanker floating in 4 feet of water down the streets of Manhattan with wolves aboard for some reason.
                        The CG wolves had escaped from the nearby zoo during the storm. They got on board after the water froze and the snow drifted up to the deck.

                        Dumb movie all the way around.
                        “Breaking News,”

                        “Something irrelevant in your life just happened and now we are going to blow it all out of proportion for days to keep you distracted from what's really going on.”

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Steve573 View Post
                          We had a science teacher show 'The Day After Tomorrow" during science class several years ago. I was hoping they were just being ironic, or showing how far from scientific Hollywood can go, but I'm not so sure. Seemed like they thought it was a good lesson on climate change, especially the giant supertanker floating in 4 feet of water down the streets of Manhattan with wolves aboard for some reason.

                          My history teacher took us to see Gandhi and Quest For Fire. I remember we had to get our parents' permission or we were left behind. Gandhi is rated PG but Quest For Fire is rated R.
                          "Stand for the flag ~ Kneel for the fallen"

                          "A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer." ~ Bruce Lee

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bwaha View Post
                            The movie is rated R.

                            R Restricted. Under 17 requires accompanying parent or adult guardian.

                            If it was my call I'd sic the cops on the 'adults'...
                            Most, if not all, school districts have policies about showing movies. What is acceptable? What require parental permission?

                            I show a fair number of videos and segments of movies in my U.S. history class. Its too much of a headache to worry about who's going to be upset. There's always another video to show that accomplishes the same broad strokes without broaching policy.

                            This was a stupid move on the part of the coach. Never let the kids bully you or wear you down into something you know isn't right.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Biscuit View Post
                              Most, if not all, school districts have policies about showing movies. What is acceptable? What require parental permission?

                              I show a fair number of videos and segments of movies in my U.S. history class. Its too much of a headache to worry about who's going to be upset. There's always another video to show that accomplishes the same broad strokes without broaching policy.

                              This was a stupid move on the part of the coach. Never let the kids bully you or wear you down into something you know isn't right.
                              Ah there's the rub. If you don't know right from wrong and being the 'adult in charge' should you be allowed stewardship of kids?
                              Credo quia absurdum.


                              Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman

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