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    WASHINGTON (AP) Donald Trump would try to force Mexico to pay for a border wall by targeting billions of dollars in remittances sent by immigrants living in the U.S., according to a memo released by his campaign Tuesday.

    The memo outlines in new detail how Trump would try to compel Mexico to pay for the 1,000-mile wall he's promised to build along the Southern border if he becomes president.
    AP - Full Article

    Maybe I'm confused, but isn't that just another exercising of big government power over individual finances?

  • #2
    Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
    AP - Full Article

    Maybe I'm confused, but isn't that just another exercising of big government power over individual finances?
    So what happens if they don't remit any more money and just sit on it? More not thought through ideas
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    • #3
      Seems to be quite a few holes in the arrangement.

      The move simply bars non-American's from doing wire transfers, off the top of my head here are the ways around it:

      1- Pay an American to send a wire transfer
      2- Send a check instead
      3- Ship goods instead
      4- Hold on to the money until later

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      • #4
        Again another off the cuff idea with no way to implement it, just words for his adoring morons, if the Republicans put HRC in the WH, lose the Senate and a bunch of seats in the House next November, they only have themselves to blame by making this con-man their nominee.
        Trying hard to be the Man, that my Dog believes I am!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Trung Si View Post
          Again another off the cuff idea with no way to implement it, just words for his adoring morons, if the Republicans put HRC in the WH, lose the Senate and a bunch of seats in the House next November, they only have themselves to blame by making this con-man their nominee.
          Dude, I'm in such agreement with this.

          With either of them we all lose...
          Credo quia absurdum.


          Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bwaha View Post
            Dude, I'm in such agreement with this.

            With either of them we all lose...
            No truer statement was ever made...
            Don't waste your time always searching for those wasted years...

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            • #7
              Excellent Idea!
              With this one modification;

              Make it a Tax, say about 5% on all wire transfers out of the US. about 24 Billion are sucked out of the US every year into Mexico, so this gets us about 1.2 Billion a year.

              Now, let's see if the Dems have finally met at tax they don't like.
              Or, to avoid that, Mexico can pay a one-time fee of 5-10 Billion, whatever the newest estimate for the wall is.

              I love it, for the first time ever, that Socialist, corrupt, rotten regime down there will pay a price for its on-going economic warfare and de-stabilization of the USA.
              All we need is a leader with the guts to make it so.

              And don't bother with what Obama's teleprompter said, all Western Union transfers are already tracked and reported.

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              • #8
                [QUOTE=The Exorcist
                All we need is a leader with the guts to make it so.
                [/QUOTE]

                And how is he going to make it so? By royal decree?
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Trung Si View Post
                  And how is he going to make it so? By royal decree?
                  If I'm not mistaken, the combination of Federal Reserve regs and the FCC control over international wire transfers could make it possible. I've never thought about it, but if you consider the income of illegals to be proceeds of a crime, it is doable. Its been done in narcotics operations on a smaller scale.

                  Since at least half of all illegals are here to support families south of the border, it would certainly impact the problem of illegal immigration as well.

                  We're certainly talking about enormous amounts of money taken as a whole.
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                  • #10
                    I don't think he's wrong by the letter of the law, but the backlash would be painful for the GOP. I'm never sure how many non-citizens vote, but one of my college teachers was Indian and bragged about voting illegally. I always thought he should have been fired for bragging about breaking the law, but apparently that's not such a big deal.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Biscuit View Post
                      I don't think he's wrong by the letter of the law, but the backlash would be painful for the GOP. I'm never sure how many non-citizens vote, but one of my college teachers was Indian and bragged about voting illegally. I always thought he should have been fired for bragging about breaking the law, but apparently that's not such a big deal.
                      It is racism to prevent illegals from voting.

                      Also, the US has already been doing what Trump proposed just as there already is a wall being built. Regulating money transfers is probably the most heavily enforced of laws of all nations.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Salinator View Post
                        It is racism to prevent illegals from voting.

                        Also, the US has already been doing what Trump proposed just as there already is a wall being built. Regulating money transfers is probably most heavily enforced of any nations' rules.
                        Good to know! If I ever go on the lam, I won't be asking any of guys for a wire transfer for funding! I guess its obvious that the only money transfers I do are between my own accounts.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Biscuit View Post
                          I don't think he's wrong by the letter of the law, but the backlash would be painful for the GOP. I'm never sure how many non-citizens vote, but one of my college teachers was Indian and bragged about voting illegally. I always thought he should have been fired for bragging about breaking the law, but apparently that's not such a big deal.
                          The tradition of letting some people break the law because they they might get upset is just the kind of nonsense that put the current crop of scum in charge of the GOP.
                          I really do wonder if it hasn't been taken over by Left-Wing agents, considering their record... and their determination that Hillary would be better as President than Trump.

                          TAX the wire transfers, like I said.
                          How can Libers be agains that?

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                          • #14
                            Whats stoping them from useing new methods to transfer money.
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                            • #15
                              Ya' all heard it here first and a while ago, this here being the most recent;
                              http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...83&postcount=5
                              QUOTE:
                              " One way to pay for the fence is with a tax/surcharge applied to all those money orders purchased in this country and sent to Mexico. "
                              23 Mar 16, 10:45

                              And a couple~few times prior in other posts of the previous couple-few months ... (when I have the time, I may dig out those prior ones ...)

                              I'll need to talk with Donny lad about not giving me either credit or cut on this deal ...

                              More seriously, this would be the classic example of "trickle down 'economics' " as the fee/percent to be paid by the cashier becomes one passed on down the line to the origin of the funds bouncing from one economy to another and back again ...
                              ... yes, we'll honor and pay that cheque but there is a 20% surcharge/fee/tax/import levee/etc. ... we are required to collect and pass on to our Federal Government ...

                              Yeah, BTW ... Note, no "cut-off", just a "surcharge" in to the pot.
                              Last edited by G David Bock; 06 Apr 16, 01:39.
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