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  • CA minimum wage set to $15 per hour.

    In a move catapulting California into uncharted national territory, Gov. Jerry Brown announced Monday a six-year plan to boost the statewide minimum wage to $15 an hour, promising that millions of low-wage workers would receive the help they desperately need.
    "It's a matter of economic justice. It makes sense," Brown said at a news conference at the state Capitol, surrounded by Democratic leaders of the Legislature and those from some of the state's most prominent labor unions.
    The agreement, first reported by The Times on Saturday, would reinforce California's position as having the highest minimum wage of any state. It also sets in motion a series of important political and policy changes. Most pressing, the brokered deal is expected to cancel two separate labor-sponsored efforts at placing a wage hike initiative on the November ballot.
    "I'm hoping that what happens in California will not stay in California, but will spread all across the country," Brown said.
    The plan, expected to be voted on by the Legislature before the end of the week, would raise the statewide minimum wage by 50 cents on Jan. 1 to $10.50 an hour. From there, it would rise to $11 in 2018 and subsequent dollar-a-year increases ending at $15 on Jan. 1, 2022.
    That is a slower timetable than union leaders had proposed in their ballot measure efforts, but an agreement that they said represented real progress.

    http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-p...328-story.html

    Now the real problem about this is that the vote was taken from we the people and given to the state. Now in places like SF I can see it. But for rural locations this is going to kill all the small businesses. They can't afford to pay some soda jerk $15 an hour. This was supposed to be voted on by the citizens of this state but the elite stole that right. They knew that the majority of the state wouldn't go for it and thus are ramming it down our throats...

    Guess what? The prices of your veggies are going to go ballistic. There's not a single small farmer that can sustain that amount of wages.

    All Hail the corporate masters. They'll bury all the little guys... Oh and the elderly as well...
    Credo quia absurdum.


    Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman

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    In AZ most vegetables come from around Yuma or from Sinaloa Mexico, not California. But, not to worry, given the state's laxity on illegals their wages won't rise one cent...

    That aside, for those legitimately on the payroll expect more business to leave that state and for automation to rise as well.

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    • #3
      Human traffickers are breaking out the champagne.

      While former low wage employees enter the ranks of the jobless, the business of marketing slave labor will thrive.
      Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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      • #4
        wont the cost of every thing just go up now?
        you think you a real "bleep" solders you "bleep" plastic solders don't wory i will make you in to real "bleep" solders!! "bleep" plastic solders

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        • #5
          In California it sure will! I can just see Landlords raising rents to try and grab that extra money coming in!

          Pruitt
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          • #6
            minimum per hour here is 9.6 Euros
            10.7 USD /hour.....


            Now California is a REAL socialist state !!
            They are doing better than us ,hahaha !
            California state ,great defender of the workers !
            It crak me up!
            That rug really tied the room together

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            • #7
              Originally posted by andrewza View Post
              wont the cost of every thing just go up now?
              It will increase the cost of living in a State that already has an excessively high cost of living...

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              • #8
                So this will drive down tourism to then. Since most American's do domestic tourism. So a Texan dollar wont stretch that far in CA so why go to CA then.
                you think you a real "bleep" solders you "bleep" plastic solders don't wory i will make you in to real "bleep" solders!! "bleep" plastic solders

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by andrewza View Post
                  So this will drive down tourism to then. Since most American's do domestic tourism. So a Texan dollar wont stretch that far in CA so why go to CA then.
                  Two words: Napa, Sonoma.
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                  • #10
                    you don't need to go to a wine region to buy it's wine. I mean if it is at the estate it is cheaper but when even a low level employee is earning 15USD that wine is going to go up in price. It may lead to imports becoming cheaper now.

                    To be fare the only thing I know about CA Valleys is that they have wine that is not as good as ours
                    you think you a real "bleep" solders you "bleep" plastic solders don't wory i will make you in to real "bleep" solders!! "bleep" plastic solders

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by andrewza View Post
                      you don't need to go to a wine region to buy it's wine. I mean if it is at the estate it is cheaper but when even a low level employee is earning 15USD that wine is going to go up in price. It may lead to imports becoming cheaper now.

                      To be fare the only thing I know about CA Valleys is that they have wine that is not as good as ours
                      Texas has a lot of good wines too... But, the world's best cabernet sauvignon comes from Napa Valley and Sonoma Valley. Plus, most of the vinyards have really good tasting rooms...
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                      • #12
                        I am a whit wine man. Though if I go red o drink Pinotage
                        you think you a real "bleep" solders you "bleep" plastic solders don't wory i will make you in to real "bleep" solders!! "bleep" plastic solders

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by andrewza View Post
                          wont the cost of every thing just go up now?
                          In CA it will. Meanwhile, more companies will shift operations to other states (such as Texas) where the economic climate is much more business-friendly and the State is not teetering on the verge of bankruptcy.

                          Not to mention Caliban's water and electricity issues.
                          Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                          • #14
                            I support the minimum wage. Low wages do nobody any good accept maybe the old and the disabled. If half the fast food businesses go under that would not be a bad thing maybe people will learn to cook healthy food again.

                            The irony of course is that this higher minimum wage comes in a state that does not support an immigration policy that protects migrant workers. As I stated earlier we have plenty of people getting degrees in women's studies and other useless degrees to mow lawns and pick fruit and vegies. A higher minimum wage moves people from useless to useful employment.

                            After our veterans returned from WWII they demanded and received higher wages than they left behind and the economy quickly began one of the most expansive recoveries in history. This was also a period of rapid growth in unions which provided for unskilled workers to move into the middle class further expanding the economic boom.

                            Higher wages also accelerate automation making the economy more efficient. The tragedy that lower IQ individuals are being displaced is something we would have to deal with in any case.

                            The idea that high minimum wages eliminates jobs for young people should be offset by revising the conservation corps and other public service jobs as an alternative to military service. Many of the jobs now filled by youth would better serve the fixed income individuals and welfare recipients.

                            Low minimum wages may seem attractive but they have the same effect on the economy as slavery did on the south. They create a class of people who would be more useful in other segments of the economy, they retard industrialization especially automation, they limit markets, they decrease the motivation to leave welfare, increase income inequality, make it difficult to repay educational debt for those unable to find profitable employment, reduce work ethics, have an anti domestication effect on marginalized segments of the work force, promote hostility toward a competitive market place, provide unreasonably cheap services to the wealthy, create class animosity, increase the welfare burdens, depress middle class wages by devaluing their services, create and atmosphere of hopelessness, make drug uses more attractive, discourage basic education, and most importantly make socialism more attractive to the underclass.

                            The flip side of course is that higher wages promote increased consumption of limited resources. Increased consumption does not come without costs. Their is also the issue of foreign competition but the U.S. has the resources to provide almost everything it needs internally. Promoting higher wages world wide however will lead to the same kind of liberal democracies the west enjoys.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
                              But, the world's best cabernet sauvignon comes from Napa Valley and Sonoma Valley.


                              The world's best for some guys.
                              Like the french ones are the world's best for some others.
                              That rug really tied the room together

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