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    May be time to renew a thread on this subject. Title is due to a concept I've toyed with where we help the malcontents living here relocate to another country of their choice, as sort of "foreign exchange" program ... more on that later.

    For now, the issue of those "undocumented" with some of the headlines in today's Drudge Report (though seems just about everyday Drudge has headlines on this topic )
    Kansas City Mass Murderer Captured in Rural Missouri...

    Mexican Illegal Who Was Previously Deported...

    ......
    AZ SHERIFF UNLEASHED: Obama 'handcuffed' Border Patrol...

    'Had agents assigned to low traffic areas'...

    'Attempted to quiet dissent'...
    TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

  • #2
    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
    May be time to renew a thread on this subject. Title is due to a concept I've toyed with where we help the malcontents living here relocate to another country of their choice, as sort of "foreign exchange" program ... more on that later.

    For now, the issue of those "undocumented" with some of the headlines in today's Drudge Report (though seems just about everyday Drudge has headlines on this topic )
    Kansas City Mass Murderer Captured in Rural Missouri...

    Mexican Illegal Who Was Previously Deported...

    ......
    AZ SHERIFF UNLEASHED: Obama 'handcuffed' Border Patrol...

    'Had agents assigned to low traffic areas'...

    'Attempted to quiet dissent'...


    So all the pissed off conservatives that now hate what our country has become can post and plan their exit?
    “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
    “To talk of many things:
    Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
    Of cabbages—and kings—
    And why the sea is boiling hot—
    And whether pigs have wings.”
    ― Lewis Carroll

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
      So all the pissed off conservatives that now hate what our country has become can post and plan their exit?
      I was thinking more along the lines of the Liberals whom hate what the USA was and is and want to "fundamentally change" it to be more like other countries.
      TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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      • #4
        Speaking of immigration, all those who for some reason fear Trump because he wants to build a wall should read Bernie Sanders "immigration plan" on his website. It's actually frightening. Some of the highlights:
        Give visas to illegals who turn in employers who treat them unfairly
        Allow illegals to buy healthcare through Obamacare
        Return illegals to the US who were "unjustly deported" so they can be reunited with their illegal immigrant families.
        Unbelievable what he proposes. Sanders is a real piece of garbage and just on this one issue alone should terrify anyone who has any logical thought in their head at all.


        Sanders is one of those mental midgets who think immigration and illegal immigration are the same thing. He says he's the son of immigrants, the US was built by immigrants, etc., all true and I'm all for but they weren't illegal immigrants which is where liberals seem to lose focus and command of logic.
        Sanders doesn't want the US to have a secure border, he wants people to just come on over, and we'll take money from all the evil rich people and hand it to them. He's the most dangerous candidate left in my opinion, and if anyone needs a campaign to stop them it's Sanders not Trump.
        For the record, we have all been raised to believe that the US was built by immigrants, has always been a magnet for dissatisfied people from all over the world, and is a melting pot that I believe stands as an example for the rest of the world. I've never had a problem with legal immigration, just uncontrolled, illegal immigration that we are plagued with and that's such a drain on the resources of border states especially. It's not an immigration problem for all you people who aren't capable of understanding the difference.

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        • #5
          HOMELAND IG: Outmoded immigration system poses USA security risk...

          'May be admitting individuals who wish to do harm'...
          TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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          • #6
            The government trying to fix their own bureaucracy is not exactly something I have a lot of confidence in. The bare minimum I'd expect from any of our current crop of candidates is that they recognize that the system isn't working, that illegal immigration is a problem, and that they will take steps to begin fixing these things. I would not expect that after decades of uncontrolled illegal immigration that anyone could just fix it overnight.

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            • #7
              A broken system is how business interests and the politicians they buy like it. Laws to please the voter, yet unenforced to please business owners. With not much concern about the effect on either American or immigrant workers.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                I was thinking more along the lines of the Liberals whom hate what the USA was and is and want to "fundamentally change" it to be more like other countries.
                Yes, a desperately poor population that is much easier to manipulate and oppress & abuse, while all real wealth is the sole property of the Govt and their 1%er cronies.
                Just like Mexico.

                Originally posted by mconrad View Post
                A broken system is how business interests and the politicians they buy like it. Laws to please the voter, yet unenforced to please business owners. With not much concern about the effect on either American or immigrant workers.
                You can't fool all of the people all of the time... but they still keep trying, don't they?
                "Why is the Rum gone?"

                -Captain Jack

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                • #9
                  Pro-Illegal Immigration Activists Plan Rallies This Saturday against Donald Trump

                  A so-called “antifascist” group that supports illegal immigration is planning a rally against GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump this Saturday in New York City, the same day that a Black Lives Matter affiliated group that also supports illegal immigration is planning a rally in Phoenix, Arizona.

                  http://www.breitbart.com/immigration...-donald-trump/
                  TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                  • #10
                    Border agents: DHS has ‘no intention’ of deporting illegals
                    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ting-illegals/

                    We can count on more of this;

                    Illegal aliens held in vicious Framingham rape

                    http://www.gopusa.com/illegal-aliens...e/?omhide=true

                    A couple of these "suspects" had already been deported!
                    TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                      I was thinking more along the lines of the Liberals whom hate what the USA was and is and want to "fundamentally change" it to be more like other countries.
                      I'm thinking 'being like other countries' means 'things you don't want USA to be'.

                      What is the core of the fundamental change that all Americans except liberals share?
                      Wisdom is personal

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                        Pro-Illegal Immigration Activists Plan Rallies This Saturday against Donald Trump

                        A so-called “antifascist” group that supports illegal immigration is planning a rally against GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump this Saturday in New York City, the same day that a Black Lives Matter affiliated group that also supports illegal immigration is planning a rally in Phoenix, Arizona.

                        http://www.breitbart.com/immigration...-donald-trump/
                        Whoope doo... The Phoenix protest was another joke. Less than 50 protesters blocked the Beeline Highway into the Trump event with about a dozen getting arrested for blocking a public thoroughfare. The residents of Fountain Hills and people not involved were PO'd big time.

                        On the whole they didn't make many friends or change minds. All they did was garner support for Trump.

                        Here's a picture of the entirety of it... Note, that about half the people standing in that picture are sheriff's deputies...

                        Last edited by T. A. Gardner; 21 Mar 16, 20:01.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Karri View Post
                          I'm thinking 'being like other countries' means 'things you don't want USA to be'.

                          What is the core of the fundamental change that all Americans except liberals share?
                          USA started out as an exception to Europe/UK and now seems to be drifting more back in that direction, more socialism and larger, more powerful central guv'mint. So yeah, there's a faction here rejecting that regression called progressive.

                          Not sure if it's the translation or your wording on that second question ....
                          ...If I understand what I think you are trying to say, the answer would be a smaller and less intrusive guv'mint (at all levels) and less restrictive on free enterprise. A return back towards the concepts and principles it was founded on. Undoing the "Hope and Change" agenda of the past several years.

                          i.e. there might be a Swede who'd rather live in the USA and an American that would like to trade places with him/her. For an example.
                          TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                          • #14
                            BORDER CHIEF: FEDS 'FUDGING' NUMBER OF ILLEGALS...

                            AGENTS ORDERED TO CHANGE STATS...


                            TX Residents 'Scared,' Tired of Illegals Running Through Streets...
                            TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                            • #15
                              BORDER AGENTS: Illegal Aliens Walking 'Out Front Door'...

                              'We Don't Know Who We're Releasing'...


                              5 Cartel Beheadings in 1 Week South of TX Border...
                              TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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