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    This is a very interesting blog/op-ed considering it is from the Huffington Post, normally a left-leaning, liberal MSM. While I'll present some of the "highlights" in following excerpts, I highly recommend reading the full article for better context and background supporting the excerpts I'll present. It is a long piece, about 12 pages when printed out, but it presents some key issues and concerns that will resonant with many readers and posters here, and of course likely draw out some of the "Moose-lum" enablers.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arnold...b_9160666.html
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    THE BLOG Politically Incorrect Reflections on Obama at the Mosque

    02/04/2016 12:51 pm ET | Updated 2 days ago



    Tilting toward Mecca.


    "Thou doth protest too much." That's my reaction to President Barack Obama's visit to a mosque yesterday.

    There is no national attack on Muslims that requires Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, and major Democrats in Congress and in state legislatures, and Democrat governors and mayors, universities, mainstream media, to dignify a problem that doesn't exist. They are projecting Obama's enthusiasm for Islam.

    Let's stop demonizing Donald Trump as an excuse in order to accelerate the Islamization of America. One friend, a former Soviet dissident living in the United States, just wrote me: "All Obama's doing is just an imitation of Europeans. I lived in Europe when it started. America is just ten to twenty years behind and catching up very rapidly." Trump deserves credit for his blunt denunciation of political correctness, for example, where a San Bernardino County resident did not report suspicious activity among the terrorists because of Obama's chilling environment of political correctness.

    Nearly a decade ago, a high-ranking German military officer predicted to me, when I was speaking with him at German's OCS school, that there would be more Muslims coming into Germany because, he said, Germans felt guilt and remorse about the Holocaust, so the government would go overboard with Muslims to show religious tolerance. He spoke to me about a specific case where three Muslim brothers killed their sister for losing her virginity, and a prosecutor was in negotiation to plea-bargain the case for the sake of harmony. It is not an accident that one of the 9/11 terror cell was in Hamburg Germany.
    ...
    The immigrant demographics are different today. In Michigan, for example, welfare forms are also printed in Arabic. We have people coming to this country not for freedom or opportunity but for government aid -- that's certainly what we see in Germany, a magnet for many seeking the highest welfare benefits within the European Union. Unlike the many Jewish immigrants who came with enthusiasm and gratitude to the U.S.three quarters of a century ago or longer, many of the Muslims coming to Europe have a sense of entitlement. They want immediate benefits. They complain, they have hunger strikes. They demonstrate.

    They don't want to blend in. They expect change to accommodate them. This certainly is true of many of the many single men who would make Bill Cosby look docile. I must add there are many needy and grateful Muslim families who feel disgraced and hurt by the predatory sexual behavior of the young, aggressive males. But does anyone believe that respect toward women in the Muslim world is remotely on a par with respect toward women in the West?

    Just like Obama wants to make African Americans or women or homosexuals or Native Americans or Latinos into victims, his strategy of division is to make Muslims into victims. ...
    ....
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    Obama at the Mosque - II

    EXCERPTS, con't'd;
    ...
    Already Muslims are a privileged group. Just as the Obama administration interprets freedom of religion selectively as it wants to force a Christian baker who finds a gay wedding immoral to bake a wedding cake for a gay wedding, or a Christian florist to provide the wedding flowers, the same Obama lawyers favor Muslims. The government seems to believe that a Muslim truck driver must be "accommodated" if he doesn't want to transport alcohol, or a Muslim airline steward must be "accommodated" if he doesn't want to serve alcohol. Abercrombie and Fitch, a clothing chain that was selling clothes via sexual appeal, was told it had to hire a Muslim who didn't fit the A-F image. We are seeing government financial settlements for aggrieved Muslims. If you can't do the job or don't want to, don't apply or quit. Will be next have a Burka for a waitress at Hooters?

    Now Muslim employees at American factories are suing to get five breaks for prayer. This is not a Muslim country. If Muslim immigrants want to be called to prayer five times a day, perhaps they would be happier in an Arab nation. There are many Arab countries. In fact, each one has a vote at the United Nations, one reason why U.N. votes are so skewed. Most of them reject Arab and Muslim refugees for two reasons: (1) they are selfish and uncaring, even for their brothers and sisters, and (2) they want to spread Muslims into the West. Both reasons are unacceptable. President Obama should be confronting those two reasons.
    ...
    ... All this is part of an entitlement ideology, enabled by President Obama's spreading victimhood gospel ...
    ...
    ...
    Obama's comparison of the current wave of Muslim refugees to those Jews is full of historical accuracies and offensive.
    ...
    What is President Obama most noted for, in his comments about Christianity? Instead of taking a bold and persistent stand against the persecution of Christians, the violent attacks, the killing -- President Obama made a fool of himself by talking about the Crusades, in an effort to establish moral equivalency between Christian violence and Muslim violence. Yeah, sure, we have Presbyterians waging war against Episcopalians. It's all over the news. The evangelical Christians are kidnapping mainstream Christians. When is the last time Reform Jews launched a holy war against Orthodox Jews and killed tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands?

    We live in a world where Sunni Muslims and Shia Muslims continue to massacre each other. Why pretend otherwise? Muslim-on-Muslim violence and warfare is so common, it is not even news. If Israel ever disappeared, the internecine Muslim warfare would grow. it is hatred of Israel that holds some of the disparate Muslims together in a tenuous truce, to the extent there is one, sometimes, somewhere.
    ...
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    • #3
      Obama at the Mosque - III

      Excerpts con't'd;
      ...
      ... Moreover, Obama is selective, government can make Christians can go against their beliefs, but government must force businesses to "accommodate" the religious beliefs of Muslims.
      ...
      Ask yourself whether their pro-Muslim approach is simple political correctness or moral depravity. Obama and his groupies charge the Republicans with a "War on Women" and an assault on "gay rights." But the Muslim nations continue aggression against women and homosexuals, ranging from sexual mutilation, assault, and rape, to stoning and death. Contrary to the mainstream media, these practices are not confined to ISIS, but prevail in varying degree throughout the Muslim world, including countries that gave the Clinton Foundation big money and speaking fees to the Clintons.

      If you're truly pro-women and pro-gay, stop admitting as immigrants a demographic group in which many of the immigrants, according to polls, believe in violence against women and gays and even believe someone who leaves the Muslim faith deserves the punishment of death. Is this just a different culture, or a threat to Western civilization and what this country is about?
      ...
      Coming into the United States is not a right, but a privilege. This country is under no obligation to move at an accelerated rate toward where Europe is, subject to literally an invasion of Muslims. These folks are not escaping religious persecution, the Christian are! And if it's a war the Muslims are escaping, it is an internecine war among Muslims. President Obama may have made mistakes in his Syrian policy, but whatever he has done pales in comparison to the years, decades, centuries of Muslims killing Muslims. But don't go back in history, as Obama has done to condemn Christians. Just look at recent years -- Muslims are killing other Muslims, big time. Why don't we help them with counsel and negotiations, perhaps some assistance, and form a coalition with Arab countries to help their brothers and sisters? We don't need to change what America is all about, because President Obama is having an identity crisis, linked to his troubled non-relationship with his Muslim father. Psychiatrists deal with that sort of thing.

      Let the Saudis and others who spend their money subsidizing foreign mosques to spread their Islamist iextremism -- let them use this money to help Muslim refugees, to resettle them in Arab nations, at least until those who are from Syria can down the line return to Syria.
      ...
      Hillary Clinton cannot be fighting against the supposed "War on Women" and fighting to defend "LGBT rights" and still endorse massive Muslim immigration. This is more than inconsistency. It is intellectual fraud. Many of these folks coming in are virulently opposed to basic rights for women and basic rights for gays.
      ...
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      • #4
        Obama at the Mosque - IV

        Excerpts cont'd;

        Obama's mosque visit is a gratuitous affront to the tens of thousands of Americans who have been maimed, and the memory of those killed, in confronting an Islamist revolution launched by President Jimmy Carter a generation ago when Carter maneuvered to overthrow the pro-Western, pro-reform Shah of Iran, and replace him with the Ayatollah. ...
        ...
        Everyone knows that America has patriotic and decent Muslims, including many who loyally serve in the military and law enforcement. And surely we need Muslim allies throughout the world to help against radical Muslim, Islamists, Jihadists, or whatever term you use, that Obama will not. You don't reach these good Muslims by patronizing them.

        The Muslim leadership around the world and in this country is reluctant, at best, to take on the Islamist thugs that they say "hijacked their religion." Surely many Muslims left the keys in the pickup truck for the Islamist hijackers, or the house door unlocked for the Islamist home invasion. Why can't we allow some "good" (as Donald Trump might say) Muslims to come here and reject those who reject us? Why doesn't Obama and his Administration insist that moderate Muslims assert leadership and enable and incentivize moderation, rather than ally with CAIR?

        On a good day, we are told by the Council on American Relations (CAIR) that Israel is the reason that Muslim terrorists, in the name of their religion, are attacking innocents in countries in Europe, Africa, Asia, South America. Or we are told the United States is at fault because of something we did, like supporting the House of Saud in Saudi Arabia. Can you imagine Christians or Jews justifying Christian or Jewish terrorism by citing some sort of grievance?

        Ours is a country where people can peacefully pursue their religious faith. It is not a laboratory or staging area for people of one religion to come with the expectation of making this a theocracy in their favor. ...
        ...
        Yesterday at the mosque President Obama did not send a message of religious pluralism, but of religious preference. Pluralism is what we had in this country before the Islamic invasion that is part of Obama's legacy. If he wants to stop the alleged American bigotry against Muslims, perhaps it's time for a moratorium until, as the politically incorrect Donald Trump said, "...until we can figure out what the hell is going on." But are we not permitted to inquire of prospective Muslim immigrants their views on the West and Western values, America and the U.S. Constitution, Sharia and radical Islam? Why not?

        Obama lectures Americans on how they should respect and revere Islam. Would it be appropriate to inquire of prospective Muslim immigrants their opinion of Jews and Judaism and of Christians and Christianity? Can we ask if they believe they would be bound by laws here, rather than by Sharia? Why doesn't Obama talk about any of this?
        ...
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        • #5
          Couple things. Everyone keeps saying blacks are privileged, now I'm hearing Muslims are privileged as well. Let's be honest though, religious beliefs aside would you want to be a Muslim living in America? Personally, I wouldn't want to deal with the issues they face. So how privileged are they when no one (seemingly) would want to trade positions with them?

          Secondly, let's also assume that Obama is trying to show enthusiasm towards Muslims. I don't think that's the case, but for arguments sake, let's say he is. Is there something wrong with that? Are we not able to separate our enemies within Islam from those who don't wish us any harm? Or, because we're at war with some Islamist, we have to hate them all...
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          • #6
            Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
            Couple things. Everyone keeps saying blacks are privileged, now I'm hearing Muslims are privileged as well. Let's be honest though, religious beliefs aside would you want to be a Muslim living in America? Personally, I wouldn't want to deal with the issues they face. So how privileged are they when no one (seemingly) would want to trade positions with them?
            Why is that? Could it have anything at all to do with radical Islamic terrorism?

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            • #7
              Obama at the Mosque - V

              EXCERTS cont'd:
              ...
              The real issue is importing Muslims with no commitment to America or no goal of assimilation, and they want to transform (a word favored by Obama, and now Bernie Sanders) America, into a Muslim-tolerant and then Muslim-dominated nation. And Jew haters and self-hating secular Jews are delighted at this influx because if we keep importing Muslims at Obama's rate, they will outnumber the Jewish population and become a potent lobby against Israel.

              We need a positive approach. If there is a massive Syrian refugee problem, then for the short term let Arab nations help them. They will be more at home, from a religious and cultural standpoint. And if peace is restored in Syria, let them return.
              Certainly some of the men should be fighting for their beliefs in their own country. Obama's policy to transport these people across the ocean and make these people permanent residents and then citizens of the United States is absurd and reflects what he wants, and what he wants us to think are American values of "democracy" and "compassion."

              President Obama has, one expert on Europe and Islam told me, a messianic complex. As for Jews, Obama called himself an "honorary member of the tribe." Further, he has said, "I am the closest thing to a Jew" to sit in the Oval Office. What an insult to those Jews who recognize Obama's hostility toward Israel. Among Christians, he is somehow one of them. But recall that his spiritual mentor was America-hating, Jew-hating Rev. Jeremiah Wright, with whom he spent two decades. And that brings us to Islam, within which Obama has a comfort level. His father was a Muslim. He says "the sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer... one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset." Well, I've heard the Muslim call to prayer, when I was in Riyadh Saudi Arabia. I didn't find it sweet or pretty. But who cares about my opinion? What's important is that Muslims deserve to hear this sound, but not here. In most cities in this country, it would probably violate zoning laws and noise abatement. But maybe Obama's attorney general will file suit against cities that limit noise.
              ...
              Europe is already pursuing Islamization. Imagine if Mitt Romney were elected in 2012. Would he, as Barack Obama did, have made his first trip abroad to a Muslim nation and have done a mea culpa speech about American guilt? Would he have encouraged and accelerated the Islamization of America? All this is part of Obama's transformation of America into a secular, socialist Europe. But what the secular progressives and agnostic-atheist liberals don't get is this: after the Islamists deal with the Jews, and then deal with the Christians, they will go after the ultimate non-believers, the secular-progressives, especially liberated women and identified homosexuals. Do the leaders of the "womens movement" and "gay rights movement" believe they will get some special dispensation for their stupidity in admitting staggering numbers of people who militantly oppose rights for women and gays? People who believe as they do are imprisoned in many Arab countries, or worse. Remember when Stalin came to power in the Soviet Union, it wasn't enough to be a socialist; Stalin liquidated even freethinking and independent socialists.

              After 9-11, we saw an understandable movement in public schools and colleges to teach more about Islam and the Mideast. But we have now moved effectively to advocacy. There is a politically correct force-feeding of Islamic values and beliefs, without critical evaluation or thinking. School curriculums pretend there is no conflict between Islam, as practiced by the vast majority of Muslims around the world, and Western values, American culture, and U.S. laws.

              Ever since the late 1960s, Muslim terrorism has been a growing part of the international mosaic. Remember all the airplane hijacks four decades ago that spawned the intrusive international airport security and screening? What about Munich? The bombing of Pan Am flight 103? The Achille Lauro? The first World Trade Center attack? 9-11? Indonesian bombings in Bali and Jakarta?? Boston? San Bernardino? These are only the more prominent of thousands of terrorist attacks mounted not, as liberal Bill Maher has reminded us, by blond Swedish women, but by Muslims.

              Ever since he became president Obama has been quite literally obsessed with Islam. To a certain extent, a Muslim outreach makes sense. We need Muslims aboard to ally with us, against ISIS, but also against radical Islam, words that Obama will not speak. We have in the United States many patriotic Muslims who are assimilated into Western values and America. But these Muslims generally are not recent immigrants but have been here for a while. In some cases, we're talking about a generation ago or even two generations.
              ...
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              • #8
                Obama at the Mosque - VI

                Excerpts cont'd;
                ...
                I've met and known Muslims for decades. Not many, to be sure. But I don't recall their talk of Sharia law. In all this time, through my considerable professional work and substantial professional travel throughout the United States, I don't recall seeing Muslim women in hijabs. This is just in the last decade, especially the last few years.

                President Obama and his administration have made it a matter of U.S. policy to import as many Muslims as he can, as if there is some urgency to increase the Muslim share of the U.S. population. It's a sort of affirmative action for Muslims. At the same time, we know that the persecution and killing of Christians within the Mideast has increased geometrically. Under Obama, the immigration ratio into the U.S. of Syrian Muslims to Syrian Christians is 97%/3%.

                Obama and his allies in
                Congress and the media have compared the plight of Muslim refugees in general, and Syrian refugees in particular, to the suffering of Jewish refugees in the 1930s and early 1940s who had nowhere to go. Jews who came to the U.S. then had Jewish sponsors here, and they went to work and resisted government help. They were pro-American and wanted to assimilate. They had no desire for special privilege or to impose their religious values on others. But Muslims are not being persecuted for their religion; the Jews were then, and the Christians are now. Christians are the "new" Jews, and they have nowhere to go.

                Let's remember that anyone reading this, regardless of your religion, or even if you are an agnostic or atheist, could go into any Protestant church, Catholic parish or Jewish synagogue in any city or community in the United States. That's not true about your typical mosque. That's the way it goes, it's their prerogative. President Obama gets through the door. Can you?
                ...
                The Arab world must wonder what kind of jerk our president is -- he projects a lack of concern for Christians. He telegraphs, at best, apathy; at worst, he sides with Islam. Is it a war against the Muslim world for this nation to prioritize helping Christians who are being persecuted solely because of the faith -- and persecuted by Muslims? Why are we instead taking in Muslim refugees when most Arab nations will not? Where is Obama's leadership to express our concern for these refugees and to encourage Arab nations (other than mainly Jordan) to step up to the plate for the Muslim refugees? That would be presidential leadership.
                ...
                Obama insists Islam is a religion of peace. But even if we forget about the Muslim focus on destroying Israel, or radical Islam's celebration of terrorism: How is it that through centuries, up until right now, Muslims are killing each other on a grand scale, in the name of Islam? Are there any current wars of Jews killing Jews, or Christians killing Christians?"

                Years ago I worked with Soviet dissenters. They said in their darkest hours the U.S. Voice of America and Radio Liberty let them know, they were not alone. There was support for them in the U.S., in other nations, and there were dissenters just like them in other parts of the Soviet Union. For years, Muslims in some Arab nations in the name of Islam have been persecuting Christians, exiling them, taxing them an extra amount, assaulting them, raping them, maiming them, putting them in prison, killing them. And we're not just talking about ISIS.

                These Christians look for a voice of moral clarity, and "moral clarity" is what President Obama said he brought to the mosque. But instead of a consistent Administration policy of supporting these Christians, Obama has effectively sided with their Muslim oppressors. What must these desperate Christians think when they read that Barack Obama went to a mosque. He spoke but a few words about their plight. What message has he sent to the world?

                In his talk yesterday Obama added, almost parenthetically, that persecution of Christians in the Mideast and anti-Semitism are not good things. The applause among the Muslims was muted.


                An earlier shorter version:
                http://spectator.org/articles/65386/...v-obama-mosque

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
                  Couple things. Everyone keeps saying blacks are privileged, now I'm hearing Muslims are privileged as well. Let's be honest though, religious beliefs aside would you want to be a Muslim living in America? Personally, I wouldn't want to deal with the issues they face. So how privileged are they when no one (seemingly) would want to trade positions with them?

                  Secondly, let's also assume that Obama is trying to show enthusiasm towards Muslims. I don't think that's the case, but for arguments sake, let's say he is. Is there something wrong with that? Are we not able to separate our enemies within Islam from those who don't wish us any harm? Or, because we're at war with some Islamist, we have to hate them all...
                  Try reading the full article.
                  Only "the Left" constantly runs up the "we have to hate them all" strawman.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                    Try reading the full article.
                    Only "the Left" constantly runs up the "we have to hate them all" strawman.
                    Hi GDB

                    I haven't read the whole article and TBH I doubt I will (Yet!).
                    That being said, the strawman argument to which you elude is often espoused by many on here (definitely not on the left) who would gladly nuke them all and turn the land to glass, such is their nuanced POV concerning Muslims and Islam.

                    Regards

                    Andy H
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                      Try reading the full article.
                      Only "the Left" constantly runs up the "we have to hate them all" strawman.
                      It's either hate or fear, or both. Else, what is the issue with such gestures? If we can separate friend from foe then we should have no problem allowing Muslims to be part of our society. The problem is the author of that article obviously wants to limit the amount of Muslims in America out of fear. He also does not appreciate the President extending such gestures as he fears it could have a positive impact on the way Muslims are viewed and treated in America, which he again purported as being dangerous. So yes, overall it does imply that we must have a blanket negative view of all Muslims in order to protect America.
                      "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
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                      The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
                        It's either hate or fear, or both. Else, what is the issue with such gestures? If we can separate friend from foe then we should have no problem allowing Muslims to be part of our society. The problem is the author of that article obviously wants to limit the amount of Muslims in America out of fear. He also does not appreciate the President extending such gestures as he fears it could have a positive impact on the way Muslims are viewed and treated in America, which he again purported as being dangerous. So yes, overall it does imply that we must have a blanket negative view of all Muslims in order to protect America.
                        I'm guessing you missed the parts about those who've m=been here a generation or two and have assimilated versus those who would be new immigrants and likely not interested in assimilation.

                        Not to mention, it ain't our problem and their local Muslim "brothers" should be doing more.

                        Then there are some strong ideological differences in the foundations and goals of Islam versus our Nation's founding principles.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                          I'm guessing you missed the parts about those who've m=been here a generation or two and have assimilated versus those who would be new immigrants and likely not interested in assimilation.

                          Not to mention, it ain't our problem and their local Muslim "brothers" should be doing more.

                          Then there are some strong ideological differences in the foundations and goals of Islam versus our Nation's founding principles.
                          There are strong ideological differences and goals seen in our current R and D parties versus our nation's founding principles. We need to look in the mirror before pointing the finger at anyone else.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
                            There are strong ideological differences and goals seen in our current R and D parties versus our nation's founding principles. We need to look in the mirror before pointing the finger at anyone else.
                            Poor attempt at deflection there. Differences between the R and D have little in common with Sharia Law and it's application.

                            Proper G2 would be to read the full article and note the key points.
                            1) Is that we should not be rushing to bring in more Muslim "refugees" from what is a Muslim problem.
                            2) We should encourage our so-called Muslim allies to take care of their own people and problem.
                            3) We should not be giving Muslim refugees preference over the non-Muslim refugees.
                            4) The current Administration is showing religious favoritism in "accommodating" Islam/Muslims while punishing Christians and non-Muslims.

                            Just a start, have to dash to a Super Bowl event at friends.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                              Poor attempt at deflection there. Differences between the R and D have little in common with Sharia Law and it's application.

                              Proper G2 would be to read the full article and note the key points.
                              1) Is that we should not be rushing to bring in more Muslim "refugees" from what is a Muslim problem.
                              2) We should encourage our so-called Muslim allies to take care of their own people and problem.
                              3) We should not be giving Muslim refugees preference over the non-Muslim refugees.
                              4) The current Administration is showing religious favoritism in "accommodating" Islam/Muslims while punishing Christians and non-Muslims.

                              Just a start, have to dash to a Super Bowl event at friends.
                              Not speaking to the differences between the two parties. I'm referring to how both parties are continuously moving away from the constitution and both parties are transforming this country into something it was never intended to be and it's for the worse. That is a bigger threat and something that's taking place right now.

                              The possibility of Sharia law in America is just tin-foil hat nonsense.
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