Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

GOP senators: Anyone but Cruz

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • GOP senators: Anyone but Cruz

    Jittery Republican senators think Donald Trump would actually give them a better chance of keeping their Senate majority if he were the party’s presidential nominee instead of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas).

    With the Iowa caucuses, the first contest of the 2016 presidential primary, just over a week away, some Senate Republicans are beginning to talk up Trump’s candidacy.

    “The bottom line is many people around here think Cruz would be worse for our chances of keeping the majority,” said a senior Republican senator, who requested anonymity to speak about Cruz frankly. “He’s so polarizing, it could be a wipeout.”
    The Hill - Full Article

  • #2
    Jittery Republican senators think Donald Trump would actually give them a better chance of keeping their Senate majority if he were the party’s presidential nominee instead of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas).
    So, these do-nothing bozos that helped Obama do whatever he wanted to all last year are suddenly anti-extablishment?
    In other words, against themselves?

    I think that only the Dems can pull a stunt like that off, but we'll see.

    Comment


    • #3
      Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
      So, these do-nothing bozos that helped Obama do whatever he wanted to all last year are suddenly anti-extablishment?
      In other words, against themselves?

      I think that only the Dems can pull a stunt like that off, but we'll see.
      The unity of the GOP, even in the face of Dem majorities in both sides of the aisle, stopped nearly all of Bobo's agenda. The number of bills they blocked exceeds a thousand. The reason Bobo is so free with ExOrds is because the GOP has consistently blocked him.

      That sort of unity is something that Cruz does not practice. He's like Bobo in that regard: he is only out for #1.

      Machines matter, not individual politicians. The Dems have been in disarray for years because of the old-school socialists and the younger moderates cannot agree. A party has to be unified to get anything done.

      And Cruz will not unify the GOP. He promises the sun and moon, but will not be able to deliver because he has poor relations within the GOP. Trump, on the other hand, is listening to the GOP brass and making allies.

      I used to be a Cruz supporter, but I couldn't stay with him because he's going to end up like Bobo: unsupported and ineffectual.
      Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

      Comment


      • #4
        Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
        etc.
        I used to be a Cruz supporter, but I couldn't stay with him because he's going to end up like Bobo: unsupported and ineffectual.
        Which is as much as I stated in the previous thread when discussing this with Doc. The GOP is not afraid of Cruz because of his policies, they're afraid of him because he's unpopular and ultimately unelectable as a presidential candidate.

        Comment


        • #5
          Originally posted by Skoblin View Post
          Which is as much as I stated in the previous thread when discussing this with Doc. The GOP is not afraid of Cruz because of his policies, they're afraid of him because he's unpopular and ultimately unelectable as a presidential candidate.
          Love him or hate him, at least Trump creates some level of popularity with his populist rhetoric. He hasn't tried to establish himself as the arbiter of true Republican-ness (anymore than your average candidate, I mean).

          Cruz seems more like one of those GOP ideologues who would bring the party down around them in the interest of purging the disloyal. That he doesn't attract the same level of dedication (even amongst fellow Republicans) means he's, at best, a Captain Bligh-like figure, alienating and offending those he should be working with.

          Comment


          • #6
            I'm starting to believe the theory that the GOP establishment wants to kill off any chance of a Cruz win before it deals with Trump. They probably figure that lacking a decent organization and relying on what might be a shaky foundation Trump might falter. Cruz, on the other hand, has better connections with the party's base. In that sense being hated by other GOP legislators does him no harm.

            They are praying they can knock out these two while someone electable picks up delegates. Risky strategy.

            Crap time to be high up in the GOP. Hillary is vulnerable, but right now the two leading candidates are a nightmare for a Presidential election. They will scare enough Dem voters to guarantee turnout. Even the Bernistas will jump on board. Meanwhile both candidates will put off at least some GOP voters.
            Human beings are the only creatures on Earth that claim a god and the only living thing that behaves like it hasn't got one - Hunter S. Thompson

            Comment


            • #7
              Originally posted by Skoblin View Post
              Which is as much as I stated in the previous thread when discussing this with Doc. The GOP is not afraid of Cruz because of his policies, they're afraid of him because he's unpopular and ultimately unelectable as a presidential candidate.

              He may lose the election, but the trend in polling suggests that he will beat Hillary.
              Per the attached, a year ago Hillary was ahead of Cruz by 15 points, now it is 1.5.
              Cruz might be unlikeable, but Hillary remains an awful candidate. The more people see of her, the less they like her.
              I suspect that the coming scandal over the DoJ's near certain refusal to indict her or her staff won't do her much good either.



              http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/...ruz-vs-clinton
              Avatar is General Gerard, courtesy of Zouave.

              Churchill to Chamberlain: you had a choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor, and you will have war.

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
                So, these do-nothing bozos that helped Obama do whatever he wanted to all last year are suddenly anti-extablishment?
                In other words, against themselves?

                I think that only the Dems can pull a stunt like that off, but we'll see.
                The GOP Establishment is so anti-anti-Establishment that they might prefer an outsider over a reincarnation of James Madison.

                The Establishment is worried that Cruz can't win because people don't like him... And if Cruz loses, some of them will lose their cushy "jobs."

                The Establishment is terrified that Cruz might win. While Cruz will have to move to the center in order to effectively govern, he would start out with an ideological passion to lock the Federal Government back up in its constitutional box.
                Watts Up With That? | The world's most viewed site on global warming and climate change.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                  The unity of the GOP, even in the face of Dem majorities in both sides of the aisle, stopped nearly all of Bobo's agenda. The number of bills they blocked exceeds a thousand. The reason Bobo is so free with ExOrds is because the GOP has consistently blocked him.
                  From Cromnibus to Omnibus, there is a long list of Bills that passed that prove that wrong.
                  I will be voting against everyone that holds office, period, for the rest of my life.

                  and, are they really against Cruz? It seems like just last week that destroying Trump was the GOP's 1# goal. Its as of the ROP was being run by Democrats... which it may as well be. The GOP does not like or even understand it's own Conservative base.
                  Nikki Haley’s response to Donald Trump. …And, oh, yeah, Barack Obama’s State of the Union speech.-

                  http://www.redstate.com/2016/01/12/n...-of-the-union/


                  Ann Coulter - A child born to American parents outside of U.S. territory may be a citizen the moment he is born—but only by "naturalization," i.e., by laws passed by Congress. If Congress has to write a law to make you a citizen, you're not "natural born."

                  http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2016-01-13.html

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                    The unity of the GOP, even in the face of Dem majorities in both sides of the aisle, stopped nearly all of Bobo's agenda. The number of bills they blocked exceeds a thousand. The reason Bobo is so free with ExOrds is because the GOP has consistently blocked him. That sort of unity is something that Cruz does not practice. He's like Bobo in that regard: he is only out for #1.

                    Machines matter, not individual politicians. The Dems have been in disarray for years because of the old-school socialists and the younger moderates cannot agree. A party has to be unified to get anything done.

                    And Cruz will not unify the GOP. He promises the sun and moon, but will not be able to deliver because he has poor relations within the GOP. Trump, on the other hand, is listening to the GOP brass and making allies.

                    I used to be a Cruz supporter, but I couldn't stay with him because he's going to end up like Bobo: unsupported and ineffectual.
                    President Obama is a lightweight in the number of his Executive Orders compared to lots of other Presidents. Currently he stands at 238 ExOrds.

                    Many others ranked higher than he during their terms, the Champion was Franklin Roosevelt with 3,721. Harry S. Truman did 907. Eisenhower 484, Nixon 346, Jimmy Carter 320, Ronald Reagan 381, Bill Clinton 364, George W. Bush 291.
                    Source: http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/orders.php

                    Of course, Obama could do a lot more in what time he has left but he seems pretty restrained in his issuances. I predict he won’t do a lot more.
                    Homo homini lupus

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
                      From Cromnibus to Omnibus, there is a long list of Bills that passed that prove that wrong.
                      I will be voting against everyone that holds office, period, for the rest of my life.
                      While that is clearly your choice and right, I would like to make a point:

                      it takes time to learn the ins and outs of a job, and longer still to learn the nuances of the overall business. By ensuring a steady stream of green politicians you hand all real power over to the bureaucrats.

                      It takes 217 Reps, 51 Senators, and a Prez to pass a bill. Focusing on individual politicians is like worrying about one value ring in a V-8 engine.

                      That is why party politics dominates: because one man cannot do very much within a democracy.
                      Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                        While that is clearly your choice and right, I would like to make a point:

                        it takes time to learn the ins and outs of a job, and longer still to learn the nuances of the overall business. By ensuring a steady stream of green politicians you hand all real power over to the bureaucrats.
                        A point that the 'throw the bums out' crowd always seem to miss. Turnover is important, but so is institutional knowledge. Someone is going to run the government. The less able politicians are to do it because they don't get how 'the system' works, the more power devolves to the people who have more experience - bureaucrats.

                        Term limits are a good idea, but it depends where you set the limit.
                        Human beings are the only creatures on Earth that claim a god and the only living thing that behaves like it hasn't got one - Hunter S. Thompson

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BF69 View Post
                          A point that the 'throw the bums out' crowd always seem to miss. Turnover is important, but so is institutional knowledge. Someone is going to run the government. The less able politicians are to do it because they don't get how 'the system' works, the more power devolves to the people who have more experience - bureaucrats.

                          Term limits are a good idea, but it depends where you set the limit.
                          Just another reason to get rid of the state entirely...

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
                            Just another reason to get rid of the state entirely...
                            "For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." H.L. Mencken.
                            Human beings are the only creatures on Earth that claim a god and the only living thing that behaves like it hasn't got one - Hunter S. Thompson

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by BF69 View Post
                              "For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." H.L. Mencken.
                              "No question is ever settled
                              Until it is settled right."
                              - Ella Wheeler Wilcox

                              Comment

                              Latest Topics

                              Collapse

                              • casanova
                                Berlin.1945
                                by casanova
                                The Sowjet T-34 tank against a German Tiger tank in Berlin in the II World War in 1945. ...
                                Yesterday, 23:41
                              • casanova
                                AW 169M
                                by casanova
                                The Austrian minister of defence Klaudia Tanner declared the buy of 18 Italian military helicopters of the type AW 169M for the Austrian army, the Bundesheer....
                                Yesterday, 23:26
                              • JBark
                                What changed?
                                by JBark
                                There was a time not too long ago when this forum was full of discussion, multiple posts, votes and involved discussions on the best of the war, etc.,...
                                Yesterday, 18:54
                              Working...
                              X