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    Somalia's Islamist militant group al Shabaab has released a recruitment film in the form of a documentary about racial injustice in the United States featuring Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, SITE Monitoring reported on Saturday.

    ...Trump's call to ban Muslims from entering the United States has been widely condemned by American politicians. It has also provoked an international uproar and led to criticism that his views could be used as propaganda by Islamist militants.
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...id=mailsignout

    The first of many I'm sure.
    "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
    - Benjamin Franklin

    The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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    I actually think that in this particular case the primary motive in al-Shabaab's making this video is to make Trump look bad in the US political field, rather than to inspire more prospective jihadis.

    Terror groups like al-Shabaab are very politically savvy and they know what buttons to push to generate a certain response. Making Trump look bad in the eyes of the undecided voter would logically boost support for Clinton and other like minded individuals, whom the terrorists undoubtedly see as easier to deal with. They'd rather have a wishy-washy Democrat in office (a woman, no less), than a ruthless person who by all accounts appears determined to put the screws to them.

    In other words, the video is more intended to freak out the liberal media and give Clinton a chance to say "I told you so" than it is to raise support at home. It's actually a very farsighted move.

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    • #3
      Does anyone really think that they will garner more support or recruitment by claiming America dislikes / hates them via Trump than by just claiming America is evil and hates them in general?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by BobTheBarbarian View Post
        I actually think that in this particular case the primary motive in al-Shabaab's making this video is to make Trump look bad in the US political field, rather than to inspire more prospective jihadis.

        Terror groups like al-Shabaab are very politically savvy and they know what buttons to push to generate a certain response. Making Trump look bad in the eyes of the undecided voter would logically boost support for Clinton and other like minded individuals, whom the terrorists undoubtedly see as easier to deal with. They'd rather have a wishy-washy Democrat in office (a woman, no less), than a ruthless person who by all accounts appears determined to put the screws to them.

        In other words, the video is more intended to freak out the liberal media and give Clinton a chance to say "I told you so" than it is to raise support at home. It's actually a very farsighted move.
        Can you cite one example where al-Shabaab's political savvy was on display in relation to US politics?

        As much as democrats ruin domestic affairs, they currently have a better track record against terrorism than republicans.
        "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
        - Benjamin Franklin

        The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
          As much as democrats ruin domestic affairs, they currently have a better track record against terrorism than republicans.
          In what way do you mean, exactly?

          IIRC, Democrats always tell us that any and all possible option that any Republican has ever mentioned for fighting Jihad will "only make things worse".
          Passivity is the only thing that gets Demoicrat approval, in practice
          "Why is the Rum gone?"

          -Captain Jack

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          • #6
            At least they are getting the msg that some are missing. tRump is not POTUS material. He is a danger for the US as much as any group of ragheads.
            "Ask not what your country can do for you"

            Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

            you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
              Does anyone really think that they will garner more support or recruitment by claiming America dislikes / hates them via Trump than by just claiming America is evil and hates them in general?
              It definitely carries a lot more weight coming from a leader especially when they have specific examples of his hatred to reference, as opposed to vague and blanket accusations.
              "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
              - Benjamin Franklin

              The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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              • #8
                [QUOTE=TactiKill J.

                As much as democrats ruin domestic affairs, they currently have a better track record against terrorism than republicans.[/QUOTE]

                How so, explain that statement.
                Trying hard to be the Man, that my Dog believes I am!

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                • #9
                  Well if Trump gets his way, it certainly would be a divisive move. Muslims would not like it and some would use it for their own purposes.

                  To return to a common theme of mine, this vast majority of moderate Muslims in the West have still not mustered an angry march against radical Islam. Nowhere in Europe or America have they done this. So moderates should do their bit to close the divide.

                  Secondly, the propaganda use is a secondary concern. Nations should make the decision best for their people, and this always starts with the security of its citizens. Nations may, if they wish, prove their superb tolerance and liberal values by bringing in millions of Muslims to prove a point. If that is the democratic choice, such as Germany has made, so be it. Others, such as Hungary have said a democratic and emphatic no to Muslim world immigration. If it is the democratic US choice, that is all that matters, not what al shabby thinks.
                  Ne Obliviscaris, Sans Peur

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
                    Can you cite one example where al-Shabaab's political savvy was on display in relation to US politics?

                    As much as democrats ruin domestic affairs, they currently have a better track record against terrorism than republicans.
                    Really? Terrorism and anti-American activity grew under:

                    Carter (allowed the fall of the Shaw and creation of an Iranian theocracy)

                    Clinton (Cruise missile "drive by's" that didn't do anything and allowed the rise of Al Qaeda.)

                    Obama (the botched "Arab Spring," the rise of terrorist groups like ISIS, the resurgence of Al Qaeda...)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Trung Si View Post
                      How so, explain that statement.
                      He has taken out more targets and more high value targets than any other President.

                      Obama has become the greatest terrorist hunter in the history of the presidency; and his successful push to disarm the Assad regime of the bulk of its chemical-weapons stockpiles has removed from the Middle East, and beyond, the possibility of an unparalleled cataclysm.
                      http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...e-east/379886/
                      "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
                      - Benjamin Franklin

                      The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Escape2Victory View Post
                        Secondly, the propaganda use is a secondary concern. ...
                        Bravo, and no kidding. If the Jihadis don't get stuff like this into their propaganda mills, they will just make up something, like the Atlantic did with that fawning bit of nonsense.
                        Obama wanted to get us into the war in Syria, boots and all, to overthrow Assad and let the Muslim Bro-hoods have it all, just like he did in Libya and Egypt.
                        "Why is the Rum gone?"

                        -Captain Jack

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                          Really? Terrorism and anti-American activity grew under:

                          Carter (allowed the fall of the Shaw and creation of an Iranian theocracy)

                          Clinton (Cruise missile "drive by's" that didn't do anything and allowed the rise of Al Qaeda.)

                          Obama (the botched "Arab Spring," the rise of terrorist groups like ISIS, the resurgence of Al Qaeda...)
                          Sorry I was thinking post 9/11 only. I should have clarified that remark. FWIW what we have in Iran today is blow-back from the 53 coup. We should never have infiltrated their government in the first place.
                          "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
                          - Benjamin Franklin

                          The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Escape2Victory View Post
                            To return to a common theme of mine, this vast majority of moderate Muslims in the West have still not mustered an angry march against radical Islam. Nowhere in Europe or America have they done this. So moderates should do their bit to close the divide.
                            You mean like how they came out in force when Saudi Arabia executed a cleric?

                            Uproar in Middle East after Saudi Arabia executes top Shiite cleric


                            Originally posted by Escape2Victory View Post
                            Secondly, the propaganda use is a secondary concern. Nations should make the decision best for their people, and this always starts with the security of its citizens. Nations may, if they wish, prove their superb tolerance and liberal values by bringing in millions of Muslims to prove a point. If that is the democratic choice, such as Germany has made, so be it. Others, such as Hungary have said a democratic and emphatic no to Muslim world immigration. If it is the democratic US choice, that is all that matters, not what al shabby thinks.

                            Germany is now dealing with a rise of anti-migrant sentiment. There has been an alarming increase in the number of hate crimes, mostly arson attacks. There were over than 800 attacks against refugee shelters in 2015, according to Germany’s Criminal Police Office statistics.

                            There was an attack in the town of Nördlingen, Bavaria last week, two houses inhabited by refugees went up in flames leaving 12 people injured.
                            "Stand for the flag ~ Kneel for the fallen"

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
                              Sorry I was thinking post 9/11 only. I should have clarified that remark. FWIW what we have in Iran today is blow-back from the 53 coup. We should never have infiltrated their government in the first place.
                              Even post 9/11 the Democrats have done worse. Sure, Bush invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. But, Al Qaeda was driven into near impotence hiding form US forces. The Taliban had to operate from Pakistan and remained local to that region.
                              Iraq's fall ended Saddam's widespread support for Middle Eastern terrorism, closed the three large terrorist training camps in his country, and had some unexpected results such as the capture and arrest of several Red Brigade members hiding there who fled to Europe to avoid being tried (and likely getting death sentences or at a minimum life in prison without parole) for their terrorist acts back in the 70's and 80's in Europe against US military installations and personnel there.

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