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  • Are Corporations left wing or right wing?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_politics

    Royalty is extreme left wing as an example, a natural dictatorship.
    Anarchy is total right wing, ie without any organisation.

    Your views on where Corporations really lie?
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    Originally posted by Nick the Noodle View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_politics

    Royalty is extreme left wing as an example, a natural dictatorship.
    Anarchy is total right wing, ie without any organisation.

    Your views on where Corporations really lie?
    Royalty is also an extreme example of conservatism, and as such has enjoyed the support of forces the vast majority of people understand as 'right wing' ever since we began to think of the world in such terms. Dictatorships can be left or right wing, as can libertarians & anarchists. They just aren't quite the same.

    Corporations don't fit on a 'left/right' axis as such, they are just in it for themselves. They tend not to like having governments or unions get in their way, so that creates a sympathy with the 'right'. They also love nothing more than big, juicy government handouts, which can come equally from either 'left' or 'right' (anyone who tells you otherwise is either lying or stupid). Of course, individual owners may choose to support either side, but in general corporations prefer right wing governments - Pinochet is pretty much their ideal form of government, though they are flexible.
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    • #3
      North Korea is functions as a Hereditary monarchy, and in Cuba power was handed off from Castro to his brother.
      By its nature, I would say that right or left is a matter of whatever whim seizes the monarch that day.

      Corporation that favor the Free market and actually play by Capitalist rules are pretty much RIght wing. They have to fight over-taxation to exist.
      Corps that favor the Crony-capitalist way tend to be Left wing, because no matter how high the taxes go, they can always cheat and get away with it.
      Last edited by The Exorcist; 27 Dec 15, 21:46.

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      • #4
        For the most part, neither. Some can be based primarily on either their top management or the products and services they sell.
        But, when it comes right down to it, they move quickly to the Right when its profit or loss on the line.

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        • #5
          Capitalist economies has done a better job of spreading wealth than any political system. Socialist believe that governments create wealth or can control the distribution of wealth by creating bureaucracy and welfare schemes.
          We have seen the results of this misguided concept.
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          • #6
            Hmmm. I think a little of both. In structure they (at least the bigger ones) are very dictatorial in nature. Rules, procedures, five year plans, CEOs that may as well be God for all the chance the lower rungs have to talk to them, often very rigid in the company ideology, etc etc

            But their outlook politically would be closer to anarchy. The less rules they have to follow the more money they can make... and ironically exert more and more control on the workforce.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Rojik View Post
              Hmmm. I think a little of both. In structure they (at least the bigger ones) are very dictatorial in nature. Rules, procedures, five year plans, CEOs that may as well be God for all the chance the lower rungs have to talk to them, often very rigid in the company ideology, etc etc

              But their outlook politically would be closer to anarchy. The less rules they have to follow the more money they can make... and ironically exert more and more control on the workforce.
              That is only true to a point. They certainly don't like rules that constrain them, but they do like external order. A predictable environment is important for investment, planning etc. You won't find too many corporations rushing to set up shop in Sth Sudan. The danger of anarchy is that nobody else is following rules either.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by BF69 View Post
                That is only true to a point. They certainly don't like rules that constrain them, but they do like external order. A predictable environment is important for investment, planning etc. You won't find too many corporations rushing to set up shop in Sth Sudan. The danger of anarchy is that nobody else is following rules either.
                True. It's been a long day. I looked at the post and thought there was more I wanted to explain but couldn't make the brain cells talk to each other.

                Yes. Not anarchy in the rest of the outside world, but anarchy in that the govt maintains orderer and looks the other way on whatever they do.

                Maybe corrupt in the pocket politicians would be a better way to say it. Where is that on the spectrum?
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                • #9
                  Corporations are people. People are left-wing, right-wing and no-wing.

                  The legal concept of incorporation is right-wing, to the extent that it is wingy. The legal purpose of a corporation is to protect private property.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
                    Corporations are people. .
                    Can you explain that? I looked at that 20 times and can't make a connection between that and the 3 Bil a year mob I work for.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Rojik View Post
                      Can you explain that? I looked at that 20 times and can't make a connection between that and the 3 Bil a year mob I work for.
                      If you can't understand what a corporation is, I can't explain it to you.

                      Here's the definition of the word...
                      1.
                      a : a group of merchants or traders united in a trade guild
                      b : the municipal authorities of a town or city
                      2
                      : a body formed and authorized by law to act as a single person although constituted by one or more persons and legally endowed with various rights and duties including the capacity of succession
                      3
                      : an association of employers and employees in a basic industry or of members of a profession organized as an organ of political representation in a corporative state


                      http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/corporation
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
                        If you can't understand what a corporation is, I can't explain it to you.

                        Here's the definition of the word...
                        1.
                        a : a group of merchants or traders united in a trade guild
                        b : the municipal authorities of a town or city
                        2
                        : a body formed and authorized by law to act as a single person although constituted by one or more persons and legally endowed with various rights and duties including the capacity of succession
                        3
                        : an association of employers and employees in a basic industry or of members of a profession organized as an organ of political representation in a corporative state


                        http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/corporation
                        Ok. But but the individuals meld into borg. We all do it. It's how we live and survive in big corporations. We toe the party line or get pushed on. But I'm gonna leave this alone coz I'm about as stuffed as a man can get. I need a lot of sleep before I can really process this properly, but if I remember I I'll come back to this after the New Years.

                        But thanks for the reply, Doc, and have a great and safe holidays
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Rojik View Post
                          Ok. But but the individuals meld into borg. We all do it. It's how we live and survive in big corporations. We toe the party line or get pushed on. But I'm gonna leave this alone coz I'm about as stuffed as a man can get. I need a lot of sleep before I can really process this properly, but if I remember I I'll come back to this after the New Years.
                          Further evidence that corporations are people.

                          Originally posted by Rojik;
                          But thanks for the reply, Doc, and have a great and safe holidays
                          Happy holidays to you too... (the Borg made me say that)...
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by BF69 View Post
                            That is only true to a point. They certainly don't like rules that constrain them, but they do like external order. A predictable environment is important for investment, planning etc. You won't find too many corporations rushing to set up shop in Sth Sudan. The danger of anarchy is that nobody else is following rules either.
                            But they do like rules that constraint their competition. A small startup would be the only one that is vowing for anarchy, but that is only because it gives them the best chance to become the big corporation.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Karri View Post
                              But they do like rules that constraint their competition. A small startup would be the only one that is vowing for anarchy, but that is only because it gives them the best chance to become the big corporation.
                              More.evidence that corporations are people...
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