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  • Trump’s campaign pattern is to denigrate groups or people then assuage then disabuse

    Interesting campaign pattern that Trump seems to be following.
    Not sure if it’s deliberate or something he’s fallen into by plain old habit.

    It is actually quite sophisticated and clever and works very well, appealing to his angry white lower middle class ‘average Joes’ who are ‘so sick of political correctness’, not being able to say anything critical about…….without being labelled racist, sexist etc)

    . He targets a group or person which people in his ‘base’…. err…. umm….. how can I put this?…… have ‘concerns about’, like; Mexican/Hispanic illegals, overt Muslims, ‘alpha’ females (eg: journo’s, running rivals, attractive Hollywood stars, pushy female reality show contestants), the GOP establishment, the media, Hilary.

    .Then launches an advantageous, ‘outrageous’ but at the same time ‘courageous’ (hey, his followers just think he’s saying what everyone things but is afraid to say!) attack on said target with some politically incorrect and hyperbolic tirade, stereotyping and generalising to get the coverage and controversy he craves and his campaign needs.
    He suggests an off-the- cuff ‘solution’ eg: a wall, entry prohibition, a date with Trump foe women with ‘issues’ etc.

    . He then shortly afterwards assuages his target’s hurt feelings with a conciliatory qualification and clarification:
    Eg: “many, Muslims, Hispanics, female (fill in option) are fine people who work hard, pay taxes, love their families, and participate wholesomely in the greater American community etc., etc.”
    “I have many of ‘these people’ who work for me!”

    . He then wraps up by saying …..but we still have a ‘problem’ with…illegals, the Muslim world, political correctness, Hilary, the Washington ‘establishment’ etc.

    Like I say, pretty clever stuff.
    His GOP opponents, to date seem to unsettled to know how to deal with him.

    Regards lodestar

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    The GOP worked for many a year to get the lower middle class turned their way—mainly with conservative social issues. Now Trump is taking advantage of that turn. When Romney got beat by his statement that 47% of Americans are takers Trump sat up and took notice. A politician has to look for his votes where the majority of the people are at. And we are a nation of falling lower middle class and falling working class people, who think that the alien people (wrong race, wrong religion, wrong nationality, etc.) are getting help from THEIR government, when they think that they should be getting the goodies.

    Trump appeals mightily to those folks and he can’t do it by touting helping the rich get richer, he has to do it by pointing out the problems of the nation as the lesser members of the GOP perceive them.

    The Democrats have done it by pointing to all of the inequalities in many sub-groups. Trump does it by pointing to the inequalities pertaining to a huge group of Americans—white, working class and lower middle class people, and in the process he may be picking off some of the folks in the Democratic sub-groups.

    Will Trump change the whole mantra of the GOP? I think it’s possible. I remember when Lyndon Johnson changed the whole mantra of the Democratic Party, so yes, a Political Party can be changed by a simple turn one way or the other in Basic Political Philosophy.

    I don’t admire his apparent misogyny and his crudeness, but I think he sees that as a way to show separateness from the ELITE of the party, who use a lot of coded and dignified phrases to show their contempt for the lower classes. I wonder if he has a psychologist on his staff of advisors?

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    • #3
      Whatever his methodology, it appears to be working. The failing middle class wants to be heard, and they see him as their voice in American politics.

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      • #4
        He has done his best to PO the Latin vote, the black vote and the woman's vote. Then consider the others that think he is a loud month jerk that would be an embarrassment to the US then there aren't to many left.

        How does Madam President sound, other than scary?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
          He has done his best to PO the Latin vote, the black vote and the woman's vote. Then consider the others that think he is a loud month jerk that would be an embarrassment to the US then there aren't to many left.

          How does Madam President sound, other than scary?
          Like I stated in a post a couple of weeks ago, Trump's nomination assures a Hillary presidency in 2016 and a GOP loss of the Senate in 2018.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Trung Si View Post
            Like I stated in a post a couple of weeks ago, Trump's nomination assures a Hillary presidency in 2016 and a GOP loss of the Senate in 2018.
            Polls suggest that Rubio or Cruz would perform better than Trump against Clinton in a head to head. More specifically that Rubio or Cruz would win and Trump would lose.

            However the election is not being held today. There is, unfortutaley, quite a high chance of another Islamic terror attack in the US before the election and that may tip things in Trump's favour.

            http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
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            • #7
              I'd say Trump is following a very American political tradition in that he's campaigning over the top in many of his statements. Here in Arizona, Sheriff Joe Arpaio (who I usually call "Joke Arpaio") does the same sort of theatrics Trump does. He wins election after election here because he taps into what used to be called "the silent majority's" disaffection with how things are going.

              Trump is doing the same thing with the same sort of hyperbole. He also knows that part of getting elected is showmanship. So, he grabs and holds the spotlight.

              Like him or not he is doing the right kind of stuff to get elected as an American politician.

              If it comes down to Trump v. Clinton, I really think Trump has a pretty sizable advantage. His biggest is he is willing to call Clinton on the carpet, most recently flatly stating she's a liar. That sort of bombast plays well with a big chunk of voters, like it or not.

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              • #8
                I'm not a Trump supporter, but I am forced to acknowledge that he has a real chance.

                The thing is that over the years Presidential candidates have all fallen into the same mode: stiff, respectful, bland, and understated. They remind me of a group of funeral directors.

                Trump's advantage is he refuses to meet the mold. I thought he was a joke at first, but I'm not laughing anymore, because the simple truth is that he has achieved more attention than any candidate since Reagan.

                It has been a long time since we had a candidate act like a human being. Or act like he was emotionally invested in the job at hand.

                That appeals to people. I think TaG is right; he might win.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                  I'm not a Trump supporter, but I am forced to acknowledge that he has a real chance.

                  I think TaG is right; he might win.
                  The nomination maybe, the national election, I wouldn't bet a nickel on it.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
                    He has done his best to PO the Latin vote, the black vote and the woman's vote. Then consider the others that think he is a loud month jerk that would be an embarrassment to the US then there aren't to many left.

                    How does Madam President sound, other than scary?
                    If you mean Shrillary, it sounds suicidal. She makes Trump look and sound like the Pope.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Trung Si View Post
                      The nomination maybe, the national election, I wouldn't bet a nickel on it.
                      I'm not so sure any more. There are a lot of angry people in America right now, and they want someone who will voice that anger for them.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                        I'm not so sure any more. There are a lot of angry people in America right now, and they want someone who will voice that anger for them.
                        I understand that and I am one of them, but they are vastly outnumbered by the ones (like me) that want nothing to do with Donald Trump and damn sure don't want him speaking for them.
                        Last edited by Trung Si; 25 Dec 15, 13:05.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                          I'm not so sure any more. There are a lot of angry people in America right now, and they want someone who will voice that anger for them.
                          What's ironic is that billionaires like Trump are a large part of the reason for the decline in the middle class. First they make them poor, then they use their anger at being poor to help try to get themselves elected.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by johns624 View Post
                            What's ironic is that billionaires like Trump are a large part of the reason for the decline in the middle class. First they make them poor, then they use their anger at being poor to help try to get themselves elected.
                            I disagree. People like Trump are the real job creators. The decline in the middle class is a direct result of having the easiest and largest immigration in the world, and being stupid enough to not enforce our border. Hungary managed to wall itself within weeks while we have been moaning about the Mexican border since the time of Pancho Villa,

                            I'll vote for Trump before any Democrat in 2016. I'll rather kill myself than vote for the Butcher of Benghazi.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Salinator View Post
                              I disagree. People like Trump are the real job creators. The decline in the middle class is a direct result of having the easiest and largest immigration in the world, and being stupid enough to not enforce our border. Hungary managed to wall itself within weeks while we have been moaning about the Mexican border since the time of Pancho Villa,

                              I'll vote for Trump before any Democrat in 2016. I'll rather kill myself than vote for the Butcher of Benghazi.
                              Trump hasn't created anything good. Casinos and hotels don't pay that well and casinos don't create anything of value. They just take people's money and give it to the owner. I'm talking about heavy industry jobs before that became a dirty word. Our middle class has been disappearing since the 1970's. That's when the term "Rust Belt" came around. Migrant workers had no effect on it.
                              I remember seeing the History Channel series The Men Who Built America. It was about Carnegie, Ford, Rockefeller and the rest from that time. They kept having snippets from Trump and Steve Wynn talking about "the game". All that meant was them making more money and ruining other people.

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