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  • #31
    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Outside the US being like 80-90% of the UN's military muscle, what has the UN done that the US really needs to take note of?
    The UN, despite some language at times, is still dominated by western nations - and the US is primus inter pares within them.

    When it comes to deciding international "law" it's better to have such a powerful voice than to sit on the outside impotently.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
      Back out of a powerful international organization we possess a veto in so nations like China and Russia can replace us?

      The USSR did that in the 50s. They ended up unable to block UN intervention in Korea.
      By all means let them have it, enjoy the world order. We will still control the coke and cheeseburgers!
      My worst jump story:
      My 13th jump was on the 13th day of the month, aircraft number 013.
      As recorded on my DA Form 1307 Individual Jump Log.
      No lie.

      ~
      "Everything looks all right. Have a good jump, eh."
      -2 Commando Jumpmaster

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      • #33
        Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
        Outside the US being like 80-90% of the UN's military muscle, what has the UN done that the US really needs to take note of?
        Nothing!
        My worst jump story:
        My 13th jump was on the 13th day of the month, aircraft number 013.
        As recorded on my DA Form 1307 Individual Jump Log.
        No lie.

        ~
        "Everything looks all right. Have a good jump, eh."
        -2 Commando Jumpmaster

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
          The UN, despite some language at times, is still dominated by western nations - and the US is primus inter pares within them.

          When it comes to deciding international "law" it's better to have such a powerful voice than to sit on the outside impotently.
          In that case our involvement has been a total waste of money.
          My worst jump story:
          My 13th jump was on the 13th day of the month, aircraft number 013.
          As recorded on my DA Form 1307 Individual Jump Log.
          No lie.

          ~
          "Everything looks all right. Have a good jump, eh."
          -2 Commando Jumpmaster

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          • #35
            Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
            Outside the US being like 80-90% of the UN's military muscle, what has the UN done that the US really needs to take note of?
            No......


            http://www.un.org/en/peacekeeping/re...ributors.shtml

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Paddybhoy View Post
              I believe that he was referring to when the UN needs peacemakers, not peacekeepers. Times like when Iraq invaded Kuwait or the Balkans and the US, UK and France did the heavy lifting.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                Outside the US being like 80-90% of the UN's military muscle, what has the UN done that the US really needs to take note of?
                The US does not contribute 90% of the military means for the UN. The majority of soldiers deployed come from other nations - you can check those facts on the UN site.

                Where are you getting your figures from?
                "Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it"
                G.B Shaw

                "They promised us homes fit for heroes, they give us heroes fit for homes."
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Sergio View Post
                  The US does not contribute 90% of the military means for the UN. The majority of soldiers deployed come from other nations - you can check those facts on the UN site.

                  Where are you getting your figures from?
                  1950s' data.

                  In terms of ongoing operations like the Multinational Force and Observers we probably win the prize.
                  My worst jump story:
                  My 13th jump was on the 13th day of the month, aircraft number 013.
                  As recorded on my DA Form 1307 Individual Jump Log.
                  No lie.

                  ~
                  "Everything looks all right. Have a good jump, eh."
                  -2 Commando Jumpmaster

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Paddybhoy View Post
                    Those stats are real time, if you check the contribution throughout history the US is one of or is the top contender.
                    My worst jump story:
                    My 13th jump was on the 13th day of the month, aircraft number 013.
                    As recorded on my DA Form 1307 Individual Jump Log.
                    No lie.

                    ~
                    "Everything looks all right. Have a good jump, eh."
                    -2 Commando Jumpmaster

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by johns624 View Post
                      I believe that he was referring to when the UN needs peacemakers, not peacekeepers. Times like when Iraq invaded Kuwait or the Balkans and the US, UK and France did the heavy lifting.
                      Exactly. Peacemakers blow up the bridge. Peacekeepers get chained to the bridge and used as human shields.
                      ALL LIVES SPLATTER!

                      BLACK JEEPS MATTER!

                      BLACK MOTORCYCLES MATTER!

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Sergio View Post
                        The US does not contribute 90% of the military means for the UN. The majority of soldiers deployed come from other nations - you can check those facts on the UN site.

                        Where are you getting your figures from?
                        We're not talking about the powder-blue helmet security guards.

                        We're talking about when the warlords can't be bribed off.....and won't bribe the security guards.....and you actually have to (gasp) Fight.

                        Or when you know, some ******* is doing ethnic cleansing, or invading other countries, or otherwise being an *******.

                        I've never seen the accounts of how the valiant UN Blue-Hats stood on the berm in Desert Shield. Or flew strike sorties in Kosovo. Or fought the warlords in Somalia when they were stopping the food shipments. Or basically did absolutely ANYTHING besides stand guard mount and take bribes.
                        Tacitos, Satrap of Kyrene

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                        • #42
                          How about the US paying zero dollars to the UN and shutting down their building in NY? Works for me.
                          "If you are right, then you are right even if everyone says you are wrong. If you are wrong then you are wrong even if everyone says you are right." William Penn.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Trailboss49 View Post
                            How about the US paying zero dollars to the UN and shutting down their building in NY? Works for me.
                            You know... with all the crazy Redneck gun-totting hate-mongers in 'Murica, you would think that a whole BUNCH of them would have emptied Machine-Guns into that building by now.
                            Barbarians that we are, I'll be that some of the slick and highly cultured Euro-style Socialist Lefties can explain why it never happened.
                            Ever.
                            "Why is the Rum gone?"

                            -Captain Jack

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