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  • Sen Cruz debate transcript is being examined by GOP Sen Intel Committee Chairman

    For what?

    He might have released classified information...

    http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/na...362669821.html

    The Senate Intelligence Committee is looking into whether Sen Ted Cruz (R-TX) may have revealed classified information when discussing the government's ability to monitor phone records during Tuesday night's Republican debate, Committee Chairman Richard Burr (R-NC) told reporters Wednesday morning, NBC News reported.
    During a testy between Cruz and Sen Marco Rubio (R-FL) on the changes in the metadata collection program, the presidential candidate said "the old program covered 20 percent to 30 percent of phone numbers to search for terrorists, the new program covers nearly 100 percent."
    “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
    “To talk of many things:
    Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
    Of cabbages—and kings—
    And why the sea is boiling hot—
    And whether pigs have wings.”
    ― Lewis Carroll

  • #2
    *shrugs*

    Hey, if you're going to give Hillary a free pass, you might as well do the same thing for Cruz.

    After all, as a good socialist, it's the fair thing to do. Right?

    *shrugs again*

    Honestly, I don't think Cruz's alleged error will amount to anything, it's not like he set up a private and unsecured email server in his bathroom and had his aides emailed classified information with top secret markings on it.

    Cruz still gets my vote.

    Hillary looks much better in an orange jumpsuit.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Cheetah772 View Post
      *shrugs*

      Hey, if you're going to give Hillary a free pass, you might as well do the same thing for Cruz.

      After all, as a good socialist, it's the fair thing to do. Right?

      *shrugs again*

      Honestly, I don't think Cruz's alleged error will amount to anything, it's not like he set up a private and unsecured email server in his bathroom and had his aides emailed classified information with top secret markings on it.

      Cruz still gets my vote.

      Hillary looks much better in an orange jumpsuit.
      So Conservatives belief included the "Hey if they do it why not US?" Got it. Please don't stand on anymore conservative 'principles' in any other topic. You either believe in them or you don't. You're siding with don't.
      “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
      “To talk of many things:
      Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
      Of cabbages—and kings—
      And why the sea is boiling hot—
      And whether pigs have wings.”
      ― Lewis Carroll

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      • #4
        Sounds to me like he's just pointing out the hypocrisy of others. I didn't see him say anything about what a conservative belief is one way or another. Just that what this alleged wrong doing is nothing compared to what others have done while nobody seems to care on her side. No need to.make so many assumptions and get so absolutist about it.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
          So Conservatives belief included the "Hey if they do it why not US?" Got it. Please don't stand on anymore conservative 'principles' in any other topic. You either believe in them or you don't. You're siding with don't.
          More like if Shrillary isn't getting charged with mishandling classified information and operating what was essentially an illegal server to handle her government electronic mail, then the rest of us shouldn't be prosecuted for it like we all know we would be.

          If Cruz is going to get called on the carpet and raked over the coals for possibly spouting something classified, then Shrillary should be too. Yet, with her massive FU it's "Oh, that's old news! Nothing to see here, move along."
          The Hildabeast deserves prison for her misuse of government documents, e-mail, and mishandling of classified data.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by frisco17 View Post
            Sounds to me like he's just pointing out the hypocrisy of others. I didn't see him say anything about what a conservative belief is one way or another. Just that what this alleged wrong doing is nothing compared to what others have done while nobody seems to care on her side. No need to.make so many assumptions and get so absolutist about it.
            Thanks for pointing that out.

            If Cruz really did that, then he's definitely wrong to that. To be fair, I don't think he had any bad intention; more like a slip of tongue, but still wrong.

            Contrast that with Clinton's behavior on the email scandal, she did that deliberately, so there's no excuse for what she did. Yet, in spite of all investigations into her email server and mishandling of classified information, she's getting away with it.
            Major James Holden, Georgia Badgers Militia of Rainbow Regiment, American Civil War

            "Aim small, miss small."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
              So Conservatives belief included the "Hey if they do it why not US?" Got it. Please don't stand on anymore conservative 'principles' in any other topic. You either believe in them or you don't. You're siding with don't.
              I'm siding with "why the hell are you making some sort of deal about it". Your statements are expressing a philosophy that "the rules only apply to those that believe they apply". Therefore while Hillary literally gives zero Fs about breaking the laws regarding classified information, she should be ignored, but at the same time any small error made by those that believe that rules apply should be blasted.

              If Cruz "Knowingly and Willfully" violated the law as it regards to dissemination of classified information, then he should be penalized.

              Note the key words, capitalized for emphasis. Without Knowing and Willful violation any case doesn't have much to stand on. A slip of the tongue with generalities like "10% and 100%" will require some investigation to prove a knowing and willful violation, but it may and if so then Cruz should be penalized.

              Of course Hillary has at this point been shown to Knowingly and Willfully violate the law regarding to Classified documents and emails.....and by law I'm meaning practically the entire thing from table of contents to index......so I'll be expecting a trial to start any day now.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by TacCovert4 View Post
                I'm siding with "why the hell are you making some sort of deal about it". Your statements are expressing a philosophy that "the rules only apply to those that believe they apply". Therefore while Hillary literally gives zero Fs about breaking the laws regarding classified information, she should be ignored, but at the same time any small error made by those that believe that rules apply should be blasted.

                If Cruz "Knowingly and Willfully" violated the law as it regards to dissemination of classified information, then he should be penalized.

                Note the key words, capitalized for emphasis. Without Knowing and Willful violation any case doesn't have much to stand on. A slip of the tongue with generalities like "10% and 100%" will require some investigation to prove a knowing and willful violation, but it may and if so then Cruz should be penalized.

                Of course Hillary has at this point been shown to Knowingly and Willfully violate the law regarding to Classified documents and emails.....and by law I'm meaning practically the entire thing from table of contents to index......so I'll be expecting a trial to start any day now.
                The thread I started is NOT about Mrs Clinton, it's about Sen Cruz. However other's could not resist trying to use her problems as a deflection from the subject.
                “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
                “To talk of many things:
                Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
                Of cabbages—and kings—
                And why the sea is boiling hot—
                And whether pigs have wings.”
                ― Lewis Carroll

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
                  The thread I started is NOT about Mrs Clinton, it's about Sen Cruz. However other's could not resist trying to use her problems as a deflection from the subject.
                  Eh, my opinion is stated. If the investigation proves a knowing and willful violation of the laws regarding the dissemination of classified information, then Cruz should be penalized.

                  Being a realist, and knowing how hard it is to make Probable Cause on something that vague, much less prove it enough to satisfy the court, Cruz won't see anything. It's a statement involving broad percentages......not a whole lot 'classified' about that......unless you count that the old program gathered an unusually small amount of metadata......
                  Tacitos, Satrap of Kyrene

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                  • #10
                    And if the worst comes to the worse I'm sure the Ecuadoran embassy has a spare bed somewhere.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Cheetah772 View Post
                      Thanks for pointing that out.

                      If Cruz really did that, then he's definitely wrong to that. To be fair, I don't think he had any bad intention; more like a slip of tongue, but still wrong.

                      Contrast that with Clinton's behavior on the email scandal, she did that deliberately, so there's no excuse for what she did. Yet, in spite of all investigations into her email server and mishandling of classified information, she's getting away with it.


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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
                        The thread I started is NOT about Mrs Clinton, it's about Sen Cruz. However other's could not resist trying to use her problems as a deflection from the subject.
                        No, it's not. It's about leaking and mishandling classified information, something Shrillary did for years repeatedly. From that, people are making a comparison with Cruz's behavior and mistake.
                        You want the subject of Shrillary's evil doing dropped because it destroys any credible argument that might be applied to Cruz. Well, too bad. Shrillary makes Richard Nixon look like a saint. When she's held responsible for her crap maybe I'll give a damn about the crap Cruz or some other politician does. Until then, Cruz is getting a pass on this because his opponent is getting a pass on doing far worse in the same vein.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
                          The thread I started is NOT about Mrs Clinton, it's about Sen Cruz. However other's could not resist trying to use her problems as a deflection from the subject.
                          Then by that logic nobody should ever be allowed to bring up Bush in a thread about today's Iraq. Nobody should be able to bring up the US Ina thread about Russia in Ukraine and nobody should be allowed to bring up things that happened in Christian Europe a millennium ago in threads about radical Islam today. It's only fair after all according to the rules you just made.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
                            So Conservatives belief included the "Hey if they do it why not US?" Got it. Please don't stand on anymore conservative 'principles' in any other topic. You either believe in them or you don't. You're siding with don't.


                            No. I kind of like Cruz, but agree with having the issue investigated.
                            If he broke the law, then he should be punished appropriately.

                            So, should Hillary, but few of us believe that will happen.
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                            • #15
                              How can this statement be classified?

                              "the old program covered 20 percent to 30 percent of phone numbers to search for terrorists, the new program covers nearly 100 percent."
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