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  • Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
    I'm in favor of small government, fiscal conservative, tax cuts, pro 2a, and repealing Obamacare. To name a few things. I doubt the left would be too welcoming of me. I'm libertarian. I've never identified with or voted for anyone on the left.
    Well, if that's true then I retract what I said and apologize, but I have my doubts.
    But, here is why I figured you for one of the Left;

    1) you blame America for all of this, solely, and insist that we have to take in all these refugees as a guilt-trip.

    2) you ignore or gloss over all the counter-arguments and use emotional arguments to push back against logic.

    3) you call people who are against you in this Racists.

    So, yeah, I just assumed...
    "Why is the Rum gone?"

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    • Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
      Well, if that's true then I retract what I said and apologize, but I have my doubts.
      But, here is why I figured you for one of the Left;

      1) you blame America for all of this, solely, and insist that we have to take in all these refugees as a guilt-trip.

      2) you ignore or gloss over all the counter-arguments and use emotional arguments to push back against logic.

      3) you call people who are against you in this Racists.

      So, yeah, I just assumed...
      Can you please quote me where I said we have to take in all refugees? You won't find the quote, because I never said it. In fact, I said we need stricter checks.

      I call people who don't like Muslims bigots, has nothing to do with being against me.
      Last edited by TactiKill J.; 18 Dec 15, 14:46.
      "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
      - Benjamin Franklin

      The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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      • Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
        I call people who don't like Muslims racists, has nothing to do with being against me.
        Ah but Islam isn't a race its an ideology. Hating Arabs is racist, hating Muslim is no different than hating Nazis, Socialists, Klan members, etc.
        "Artillery lends dignity to what might otherwise be a vulgar brawl." - Frederick the Great

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        • Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
          Can you please quote me where I said we have to take in all refugees? You won't find the quote, because I never said it. In fact, I said we need stricter checks.

          I call people who don't like Muslims racists, has nothing to do with being against me.
          What "race" is Muslim?

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          • Thanks. My mistake in using his word. I corrected my post so we can avoid another semantics argument.
            "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
            - Benjamin Franklin

            The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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            • Originally posted by frisco17 View Post
              Ah but Islam isn't a race its an ideology. Hating Arabs is racist, hating Muslim is no different than hating Nazis, Socialists, Klan members, etc.
              Exactly...
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              • Originally posted by frisco17 View Post
                Ah but Islam isn't a race its an ideology. Hating Arabs is racist, hating Muslim is no different than hating Nazis, Socialists, Klan members, etc.
                I for one acknowledge the difference between race and religion.


                I also find that hating Muslims is similar to hating whites, blacks, Chinese, and Jews. All lives matter.

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                • Carpet bombing won't do jack other than cause us all more domestic political problems and create an even bigger refugee problem and of course kill a lot of people that probably weren't the intended target. They're not grouping together en masse nor do they have a ball bearing factory that can only be destroyed by using a Norton bomb site. Carpet bombing was done in ww2 coz they couldn't hit targets efficiently enough with the tech available. Carpet bombing didn't do much against the vc and they got more tonnage than the whole of the axis combined. These people need to be destroyed but done by letting the Kurds go medieval on them with western air support. This is just gung Ho BS by the ignorant for the ignorant who watch too many war movies.
                  Last edited by copenhagen; 18 Dec 15, 17:16.

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                  • Originally posted by Taieb el-Okbi View Post
                    I for one acknowledge the difference between race and religion.


                    I also find that hating Muslims is similar to hating whites, blacks, Chinese, and Jews. All lives matter.
                    We didn't mistrust certain Russians in the Cold War because they were Russians . It because many of them perpetuated a communist ideology that was a clear danger to our way of life and national security. No one called each other commiephobe.

                    Within Islam there is at least people who think women are second class citizens and that homosexuals are deviants and should be flogged. At worst they would happily throw gays off a roof, women would not be educated and they'd be head me because I'm a non believer. Most worryingly are very large percentage across the Islamic world who think the punishment for apostasy should be death.It is not phobic to have a problem with that and say I don't want such sentiments returns to our society that we haven't seen for over half a millennia. Just because an illiterate con man claims he had a revelation in a desert over a thousand years ago makes it no less retarded than some crazy man who thinks he's god sitting in his basement now.
                    Last edited by copenhagen; 18 Dec 15, 17:26.

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                    • Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                      My view is the "They bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun..."

                      That is, we should be using unbridled force on ISIS. They fire from a building, any building including a mosque, and we flatten it. We spray the ruins with napalm.

                      If we intend to fight ISIS as a war, then we should, like the Russians, be willing to use massive and excessive force to win.

                      The idea that somehow the military is a super police force and that the enemy are nothing more than common criminals who need to be arrested and brought to trial is nothing short of insane. Yet, that is pretty much the Obama administration's view of how to conduct war.
                      Just remember that any one of those ISIS members could be Obama's son.
                      My worst jump story:
                      My 13th jump was on the 13th day of the month, aircraft number 013.
                      As recorded on my DA Form 1307 Individual Jump Log.
                      No lie.

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                      • Originally posted by 101combatvet View Post
                        Just remember that any one of those ISIS members could be Obama's son.
                        All the more reason...

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                        • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                          Not of cities, but was done against Iraqi defensive "boxes" on the front line in prep of our guys going over the wire.
                          OK, thanks for the info. Yes, when I wrote that I didn't remember carpet bombings during that war, I implied "over cities".
                          Carpet-bombing entirely military objectives is of course legitimate. It was employed in 1944 too.
                          The problem with that, today, is that I doubt the IS will be as obliging as the Iraqi or the German armies and deploy troops along a frontline away from civilians.
                          Michele

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                          • Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                            All the more reason...

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                            • Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
                              Well, if that's true then I retract what I said and apologize, but I have my doubts.
                              But, here is why I figured you for one of the Left;

                              1) you blame America for all of this, solely, and insist that we have to take in all these refugees as a guilt-trip.

                              2) you ignore or gloss over all the counter-arguments and use emotional arguments to push back against logic.

                              3) you call people who are against you in this Racists.

                              So, yeah, I just assumed...
                              Well, if it smells like a rose, or quacks like a duck....

                              Remember, one of the most common things liberals/leftists/progressives do is deny who they actually are.
                              The First Amendment applies to SMS, Emails, Blogs, online news, the Fourth applies to your cell phone, computer, and your car, but the Second only applies to muskets?

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                              • Originally posted by Hida Akechi View Post
                                Well, if it smells like a rose, or quacks like a duck....

                                Remember, one of the most common things liberals/leftists/progressives do is deny who they actually are.
                                Yes, and that goes for Muslim Jihadists too. I guess they think that helps the spread of propaganda, but sooner or later people just tune it all out.

                                Aren't you glad our side isn't into that?


                                I just heard that CNN is trying to encourage ISIS to make anti-Trump vids. Yeah... ain't that just the darndest thing?
                                "Why is the Rum gone?"

                                -Captain Jack

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