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  • Gixxer86g
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    Kids are often used as suicide bombers by various muslim groups. It's obvious at this point that clock boy's father was behind his "invention".

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  • Gixxer86g
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    Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
    They are 10 and 11 years old. What do you expect.
    These days, anything......

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  • Combat Engineer
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    Originally posted by Gixxer86g View Post
    Wow. Whatever their plot was involved attacking this "bully" during an assembly, in a crowded auditorium!
    They are 10 and 11 years old. What do you expect.

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  • Gixxer86g
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    Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
    Sorry, my link quoted the County Prosecutor, after an investigation by the police and his office it was determine to be just a little matter with a bully, that is it.
    Wow. Whatever their plot was involved attacking this "bully" during an assembly, in a crowded auditorium!

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  • Combat Engineer
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    Originally posted by Gixxer86g View Post
    And CE, read the link you posted. These kids are in serious trouble.

    Remember, clock boy's sister only got a three day suspension for a bomb threat.
    Posted it.

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  • Combat Engineer
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    Originally posted by Gixxer86g View Post
    Actually, the new information changes little. These kids were plotting to do something to a lot more people than this alleged bully. If that's what this was......

    This was all known as the authorities stated that they were found with a device, it wasn't explosive and it wasn't a prank.
    Sorry, my link quoted the County Prosecutor, after an investigation by the police and his office it was determine to be just a little matter with a bully, that is it.

    From that link:

    The Passaic County Prosecutor’s Office on Friday said four Clifton elementary school students suspected this week of improvising a crude “bomb,” in fact had concocted a mix of vegetable oil, salad dressing and cinnamon sticks, putting the ingredients in an empty Altoids tin. In reaction to an incident of “perceived” bullying involving a youth who attends Clifton High School, they plotted to somehow use device during a field trip to the high school this week — a plan Prosecutor Camelia Valdes said was “immature and unrealistic,” as the “bomb” was “neither flammable, nor dangerous.”
    The ONLY thing you could do with that 'device' which it was not, is throw it at the High School kid. Nothing more.

    And yet even with that they must:

    The four must enter what’s called a “station house” adjustment agreement with Clifton police – a step short of prosecution reserved for first-time offenders that requires mandatory counseling, Valdes said.

    The juveniles also must undergo a psychiatric evaluation before they will be allowed to return to school. Formal charges might be pursued if the five students fail to adhere to the conditions for counseling and a psychiatric review, the prosecutor said.

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  • Gixxer86g
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    And CE, read the link you posted. These kids are in serious trouble.

    Remember, clock boy's sister only got a three day suspension for a bomb threat.

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  • Gixxer86g
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    Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
    Yes it's new information, which is why I posted it. Perhaps it's best not to make assumptions from the early reports on a story.
    Actually, the new information changes little. These kids were plotting to do something to a lot more people than this alleged bully. If that's what this was......

    This was all known as the authorities stated that they were found with a device, it wasn't explosive and it wasn't a prank.

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  • Combat Engineer
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    Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
    I think Ron, in his endearing but slightly insane manner, is trying to point out that you are buying the excuse offered up by the suspect hook, line, and sinker.

    Yes, they did not build a bomb. But what was their intent? That has not been explored at all; you're accepting what one side says as gospel without any verification.
    I'm accepting what the County prosecutor and Police determined when they investigated the 'incident'.

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  • Arnold J Rimmer
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    Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
    What if it had been C-4????? You're still NOT tracking on what this actually was.
    I think Ron, in his endearing but slightly insane manner, is trying to point out that you are buying the excuse offered up by the suspect hook, line, and sinker.

    Yes, they did not build a bomb. But what was their intent? That has not been explored at all; you're accepting what one side says as gospel without any verification.

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  • Combat Engineer
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    Originally posted by SRV Ron View Post
    and, what if there had been altoids in that container earlier? What if some of the kids would have been hurt as a result of someone not catching them?

    You have seen the results of the neighbor of the latest Terrorist that saw, but said nothing for fear of being labelled and sued as a Racist troublemaker. Is that what you want, say nothing until after the fact?
    What if it had been C-4????? You're still NOT tracking on what this actually was.

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  • SRV Ron
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    Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
    Read Ron. There were NO altoids, just the tin. Now go back and read the list of ingredients......
    and, what if there had been altoids in that container earlier? What if some of the kids would have been hurt as a result of someone not catching them?

    You have seen the results of the neighbor of the latest Terrorist that saw, but said nothing for fear of being labelled and sued as a Racist troublemaker. Is that what you want, say nothing until after the fact?

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  • Combat Engineer
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    Originally posted by SRV Ron View Post
    Back in the early 60s, before the Progressives destroyed public education with their social experiments, it was common practice to have a shotgun in the rack of your pickup in rural high schools. We went pheasant or deer hunting after school let out for the day.

    The combination of Altoids and a carbonated beverage in a confined container can result in that container exploding in a shower of shrapnel.
    Read Ron. There were NO altoids, just the tin. Now go back and read the list of ingredients......

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  • Combat Engineer
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    Originally posted by Gixxer86g View Post
    This is new information. Read the original story. Reality helps.
    Yes it's new information, which is why I posted it. Perhaps it's best not to make assumptions from the early reports on a story.

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  • SRV Ron
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    Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
    Of course the funny thing, besides the Altoids Tin etc, is that is this was a kid in KY with a Shotgun in a rack in his pick up, you'd be screaming bloody murder against the school and the police.
    Back in the early 60s, before the Progressives destroyed public education with their social experiments, it was common practice to have a shotgun in the rack of your pickup in rural high schools. We went pheasant or deer hunting after school let out for the day.

    The combination of Altoids and a carbonated beverage in a confined container can result in that container exploding in a shower of shrapnel.
    Last edited by SRV Ron; 05 Dec 15, 06:42.

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