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  • Are diamond lanes unconstitutional?

    Article I Section 8 accounts for the right of Congress to establish post Roads, but nowhere does it mention the dedication of roads for mass use.

    Just wondering.

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    As long as the USPS uses the National Roads, I think we are good.

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    • #3
      No, because they don't stop you from using multiple other lanes. It is no different than a law like "Slow traffic stay right."

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      • #4
        This is classic.

        When Jonathan Frieman of San Rafael, Calif., was pulled over for driving alone in the carpool lane, he argued to the officer that, actually, he did have a passenger. He waved his corporation papers at the officer, he told NBCBayArea.com, saying that corporations are people under California law.

        Frieman doesn't actually support this notion. For more than 10 years, Frieman says he had been trying to get pulled over to get ticketed and to take his argument to court -- to challenge a judge to determine that corporations and people are not the same. Mission accomplished in October, when he was slapped with a fine -- a minimum of $481.

        http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...oration-papers
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
          This is classic.

          When Jonathan Frieman of San Rafael, Calif., was pulled over for driving alone in the carpool lane, he argued to the officer that, actually, he did have a passenger. He waved his corporation papers at the officer, he told NBCBayArea.com, saying that corporations are people under California law.

          Frieman doesn't actually support this notion. For more than 10 years, Frieman says he had been trying to get pulled over to get ticketed and to take his argument to court -- to challenge a judge to determine that corporations and people are not the same. Mission accomplished in October, when he was slapped with a fine -- a minimum of $481.

          http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...oration-papers
          So he didn't win then, right?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
            This is classic.

            When Jonathan Frieman of San Rafael, Calif., was pulled over for driving alone in the carpool lane, he argued to the officer that, actually, he did have a passenger. He waved his corporation papers at the officer, he told NBCBayArea.com, saying that corporations are people under California law.

            Frieman doesn't actually support this notion. For more than 10 years, Frieman says he had been trying to get pulled over to get ticketed and to take his argument to court -- to challenge a judge to determine that corporations and people are not the same. Mission accomplished in October, when he was slapped with a fine -- a minimum of $481.

            http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...oration-papers

            That's the best part. For over ten years he tried to get pulled over.

            HOV lanes don't work because they don't get used, traffic ends up being worse, and the laws aren't enforced.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
              This is classic.

              When Jonathan Frieman of San Rafael, Calif., was pulled over for driving alone in the carpool lane, he argued to the officer that, actually, he did have a passenger. He waved his corporation papers at the officer, he told NBCBayArea.com, saying that corporations are people under California law.

              Frieman doesn't actually support this notion. For more than 10 years, Frieman says he had been trying to get pulled over to get ticketed and to take his argument to court -- to challenge a judge to determine that corporations and people are not the same. Mission accomplished in October, when he was slapped with a fine -- a minimum of $481.

              http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...oration-papers
              Dr Samuel Johnson has answered that one very succinctly back in the 18th century when he said of corporations "they have no a*se to be kicked"
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Nikki View Post
                Article I Section 8 accounts for the right of Congress to establish post Roads, but nowhere does it mention the dedication of roads for mass use.

                Just wondering.
                Based on a strict reading of Article I, Section 8, the entire Federal highway system is unconstitutional.

                However, the Constitution does not prohibit State and local governments from designating lanes of traffic for HOV, busses, bicycles, wheel chairs, roller blades or pizza delivery vehicles.
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                • #9
                  There is no constitutional right to drive...Extrapolate that to your vehicle and you have your answer...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Darth Holliday View Post
                    There is no constitutional right to drive...Extrapolate that to your vehicle and you have your answer...
                    Rights don't come from the Constitution.

                    The US Constitution enumerates the powers of government. It does not create rights.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
                      Rights don't come from the Constitution.

                      The US Constitution enumerates the powers of government. It does not create rights.
                      Exactly.
                      The Bill of Rights recognizes rights that are possessed by the people and are not "given" by the government.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post
                        Exactly.
                        The Bill of Rights recognizes rights that are possessed by the people and are not "given" by the government.
                        The Bill of Rights simply emphasizes that Federal government is exceptionally prohibited from infringing on certain rights or lays out the specific circumstances in which rights may be infringed upon.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Nikki View Post
                          Article I Section 8 accounts for the right of Congress to establish post Roads, but nowhere does it mention the dedication of roads for mass use.

                          Just wondering.
                          The Federal Government does not establish 'Diamond' lanes. States, cities and counties do.
                          “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
                          “To talk of many things:
                          Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
                          Of cabbages—and kings—
                          And why the sea is boiling hot—
                          And whether pigs have wings.”
                          ― Lewis Carroll

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
                            Based on a strict reading of Article I, Section 8, the entire Federal highway system is unconstitutional.

                            However, the Constitution does not prohibit State and local governments from designating lanes of traffic for HOV, busses, bicycles, wheel chairs, roller blades or pizza delivery vehicles.

                            Based National Defense. The highways were needed to defend the nation. Always the magic bullet.
                            “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
                            “To talk of many things:
                            Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
                            Of cabbages—and kings—
                            And why the sea is boiling hot—
                            And whether pigs have wings.”
                            ― Lewis Carroll

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
                              The Federal Government does not establish 'Diamond' lanes. States, cities and counties do.
                              They just bribe and/or coerce the States to do it for them...

                              http://www.ops.fhwa.dot.gov/freewaymgmt/hovguidance/
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