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  • Hillary's e-malis are back....

    Now the White House wants to keep some e-mails secret / confidential that were between Obama and her and went via her private server.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...zB&ocid=SMSDHP

    Seems more evidence that confidential and inappropriate use of this server was the case. After all, if the e-mails were sufficiently sensitive to warrant executive privilege, they were sensitive enough they should have stayed on a government server, and probably a secure one.
    As it is, it's possible these e-mails weren't just on Shrillary's server but in cloud storage with her server's support company, any of several lawyers who had thumb drives with copies of stuff on them, etc.

  • #2
    This is impossible. Hillary herself said that none of the emails she sent or received on her private email server contained classified information. For these emails to now be 'kept secret or confidential' by the White House would mean that somehow the things Hillary said and the truth are not the same thing. Which would make her a liar? No way! She's so personable and likable...how can that sweet woman possibly be a G.D. liar?

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    • #3
      The count on ones definitely classified (mostly Confidential) is just shy of 700 now.

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      • #4
        This subject is a bit like raw broccoli - keeps coming back but in increasingly rancid posts that shed very little on the issue..
        Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
        Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by MarkV View Post
          This subject is a bit like raw broccoli - keeps coming back but in increasingly rancid posts that shed very little on the issue..
          So, are you of the opinion that it should just be dropped and Hillary allowed to get away, once again, with actions that are unethical and questionable at best, illegal at worst?

          By those standards Nixon would have finished his second term unscathed, and Hillary's hubby would never have been impeached.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
            So, are you of the opinion that it should just be dropped and Hillary allowed to get away, once again, with actions that are unethical and questionable at best, illegal at worst?

            By those standards Nixon would have finished his second term unscathed, and Hillary's hubby would never have been impeached.
            No but you can flog a subject long after the point has been made
            Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
            Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MarkV View Post
              No but you can flog a subject long after the point has been made
              The subject is being flogged to death because she is not being held responsible for her actions when clearly someone with a different surname and different party affiliation would already be under federal indictment!
              Trying hard to be the Man, that my Dog believes I am!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by MarkV View Post
                No but you can flog a subject long after the point has been made
                Well it like this, many have had a security clearance that we know if we let slip classified material we go to Leavenworth Federal Penitentiary. I signed a document that stated that it would be at least a term of twenty years.

                If you are responsible for violating the law you should be held accountable...
                Credo quia absurdum.


                Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bwaha View Post
                  Well it like this, many have had a security clearance that we know if we let slip classified material we go to Leavenworth Federal Penitentiary. I signed a document that stated that it would be at least a term of twenty years.

                  If you are responsible for violating the law you should be held accountable...
                  True but once you've identified the first zillion offences is there much point in continuing - the point has been made.
                  Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
                  Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Steve573 View Post
                    This is impossible. Hillary herself said that none of the emails she sent or received on her private email server contained classified information. For these emails to now be 'kept secret or confidential' by the White House would mean that somehow the things Hillary said and the truth are not the same thing. Which would make her a liar? No way! She's so personable and likable...how can that sweet woman possibly be a G.D. liar?
                    Haha .
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by MarkV View Post
                      True but once you've identified the first zillion offences is there much point in continuing - the point has been made.
                      No.

                      The point will be made when she is indicted and convicted and is not the president of the United States.

                      We don't need garbage like her in office-of any type.
                      We are not now that strength which in old days
                      Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                      Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                      To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MarkV View Post
                        True but once you've identified the first zillion offences is there much point in continuing - the point has been made.
                        I get what you're saying...kind of redundant to keep saying she's guilty over and over. The problem is she's running for president and everything both positive and negative will be repeated ad nauseum until it's enough to drive us all nuts. Plus, to some people the fact that she seems to be sliding by on this issue is pretty outrageous, especially knowing for a fact that other people have been guilty of less and have been tried, convicted and sentenced, while no action seems to be forthcoming against her. I'd feel the same way if it was another public figure, there's just something that brings out the outrage just enough that you just can't let it go. Also, some of us have had security clearances and know from experience what it entails to keep information secure, and it seems unnatural for classified information to be treated in such a cavalier way with no consequence at all.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MarkV View Post
                          True but once you've identified the first zillion offences is there much point in continuing - the point has been made.
                          But..... the POINT is not so much her breaking the law as it is NOT doing anything about it. (Or being unable to do so.)

                          Used to be in this country that the exposed "bad politicians" ( a redundancy in verbosity, IMHO) were forced out of office and embarrassed, to say the least.

                          Now they run for President... and may very well make it.

                          I find that MOST unnerving! If you take a known criminal and elect him/her to the office of President...... what does that say about the integrity of the Nation as a whole?

                          GG
                          "The will of a section rooted in self interest, should not outweigh the vital interests of a whole people." -Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain-

                          "Fanatics of any sort are dangerous." -GG-

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                          • #14
                            I'm curious if it isn't a common practice and Hillary is just been singled out? More than anything else I think it demonstrates she is not particularly clever considering this is not a new problem.

                            According to Time Magazine

                            "The Bush Administration admitted that in reviewing documents requested by Democrats for their investigations, it discovered that as many as 50 of its staffers may have violated the Presidential Records Act. The staffers, the White House said, were using e-mail accounts, laptops and BlackBerries provided by the Republican National Committee for official executive branch communications rather than the exclusively political work for which they were intended. Because the RNC had a policy until 2004 of erasing all e-mails on its servers after 30 days, including those by White House staffers, and because some of those staffers may have deleted e-mails on their own, the White House said it could not assure Congress that they have not violated the PRA, which requires the retention of official White House documents. The White House officials who may have broken the law include senior adviser Karl Rove, his deputies and much of their staffs."
                            We hunt the hunters

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
                              I'm curious if it isn't a common practice and Hillary is just been singled out? More than anything else I think it demonstrates she is not particularly clever considering this is not a new problem.

                              According to Time Magazine

                              "The Bush Administration admitted that in reviewing documents requested by Democrats for their investigations, it discovered that as many as 50 of its staffers may have violated the Presidential Records Act. The staffers, the White House said, were using e-mail accounts, laptops and BlackBerries provided by the Republican National Committee for official executive branch communications rather than the exclusively political work for which they were intended. Because the RNC had a policy until 2004 of erasing all e-mails on its servers after 30 days, including those by White House staffers, and because some of those staffers may have deleted e-mails on their own, the White House said it could not assure Congress that they have not violated the PRA, which requires the retention of official White House documents. The White House officials who may have broken the law include senior adviser Karl Rove, his deputies and much of their staffs."
                              Different standards. Republicans = take some responsibility and try to do the right thing (even if they don't in the end).

                              Democrats = Deny wrong doing and demand you believe them.

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