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    Jagadish Shukla may be regretting he ever signed a controversial letter to President Obama.
    The climate scientist at George Mason University made headlines when he was the lead signatory on a letter to Obama, Attorney General Loretta Lynch and the head of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy "strongly" supporting using federal racketeering laws to investigate those in the private or public sector who work with the fossil fuel industry to "undermine climate science."
    The letter, also signed by 19 others, created an uproar, with accusations that the authors were hoping to criminalize those who question how much humans contribute to climate change.
    The letter prompted critics to look into the finances of the Institute of Global Environment and Society, one of the organizations Shukla heads at George Mason. They accused the decorated Shukla of fiscal funny business, including potential double-dipping.
    Then the Republican chairman of the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology kicked the controversy to a higher level on Oct. 1 by sending a letter to Shukla informing him of a committee investigation into the management of federal money granted to IGES.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015...?intcmp=hplnws
    Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

  • #2
    I guess the thought police will soon appear at my doorstep to arrest me.
    Trying hard to be the Man, that my Dog believes I am!

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    • #3
      Be careful what you wish for...

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      • #4
        I imagine Doc is just about bursting with joy...
        Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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        • #5
          This reminds me of how Copernicus was prosecuted for being an "Earth is the center of the universe denier".
          Avatar is General Gerard, courtesy of Zouave.

          Churchill to Chamberlain: you had a choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor, and you will have war.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
            I imagine Doc is just about bursting with joy...
            Your cluelessness is truly boundless if you think I am on the Gorebots' side.

            I posted this story a month ago...
            Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
            These people need to be tarred and feathered...
            Dear President Obama, Attorney General Lynch, and OSTP Director Holdren,

            As you know, an overwhelming majority of climate scientists are convinced about the potentially serious adverse effects of human-induced climate change on human health, agriculture, and biodiversity. We applaud your efforts to regulate emissions and the other steps you are taking. Nonetheless, as climate scientists we are exceedingly concerned that America’s response to climate change – indeed, the world’s response to climate change – is insufficient. The risks posed by climate change, including increasing extreme weather events, rising sea levels, and increasing ocean acidity – and potential strategies for addressing them – are detailed in the Third National Climate Assessment (2014), Climate Change Impacts in the United States. The stability of the Earth’s climate over the past ten thousand years contributed to the growth of agriculture and therefore, a thriving human civilization. We are now at high risk of seriously destabilizing the Earth’s climate and irreparably harming people around the world, especially the world’s poorest people.

            We appreciate that you are making aggressive and imaginative use of the limited tools available to you in the face of a recalcitrant Congress. One additional tool – recently proposed by Senator Sheldon Whitehouse – is a RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act) investigation of corporations and other organizations that have knowingly deceived the American people about the risks of climate change, as a means to forestall America’s response to climate change. The actions of these organizations have been extensively documented in peer reviewed academic research (Brulle, 2013) and in recent books including: Doubt is their Product (Michaels, 2008), Climate Cover-Up (Hoggan & Littlemore, 2009), Merchants of Doubt (Oreskes & Conway, 2010), The Climate War (Pooley, 2010), and in The Climate Deception Dossiers (Union of Concerned Scientists, 2015). We strongly endorse Senator Whitehouse’s call for a RICO investigation.

            The methods of these organizations are quite similar to those used earlier by the tobacco industry. A RICO investigation (1999 to 2006) played an important role in stopping the tobacco industry from continuing to deceive the American people about the dangers of smoking. If corporations in the fossil fuel industry and their supporters are guilty of the misdeeds that have been documented in books and journal articles, it is imperative that these misdeeds be stopped as soon as possible so that America and the world can get on with the critically important business of finding effective ways to restabilize the Earth’s climate, before even more lasting damage is done.

            Sincerely,

            Jagadish Shukla, George Mason University, Fairfax, VA
            Edward Maibach, George Mason University, Fairfax, VA
            Paul Dirmeyer, George Mason University, Fairfax, VA
            Barry Klinger, George Mason University, Fairfax, VA
            Paul Schopf, George Mason University, Fairfax, VA

            David Straus, George Mason University, Fairfax, VA
            Edward Sarachik, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
            Michael Wallace, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
            Alan Robock, Rutgers University, New Brunswick, NJ
            Eugenia Kalnay, University of Maryland, College Park, MD
            William Lau, University of Maryland, College Park, MD
            Kevin Trenberth, National Center for Atmospheric Research, Boulder, CO
            T.N. Krishnamurti, Florida State University, Tallahassee, FL
            Vasu Misra, Florida State University, Tallahassee, FL
            Ben Kirtman, University of Miami, Miami, FL
            Robert Dickinson, University of Texas, Austin, TX
            Michela Biasutti, Earth Institute, Columbia University, New York, NY
            Mark Cane, Columbia University, New York, NY
            Lisa Goddard, Earth Institute, Columbia University, New York, NY
            Alan Betts, Atmospheric Research, Pittsford, VT

            http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/09/1...lence-critics/

            Last edited by The Doctor; 16 Oct 15, 15:23.
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            • #7
              If you think this is bad, and it is, it will be much worse if Hillary gets in...
              We are not now that strength which in old days
              Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
              Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
              To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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              • #8
                Are we going to be fighting a second civil war soon? The attempt to make the climate debate a human rights issue is a very dangerous thing indeed. Not only have climate fanatics threaten the integrity of environmental consciousness, threaten the credibility of science and now threaten to destroy the concept of human rights they are threatening the foundations of civil discourse.
                We hunt the hunters

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                • #9
                  But, this is how the Progressive side of things operates. Crush any opposition to their agenda / position not by better arguments but by force. Muzzle critics because they know they can't counter them with superior ideas.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
                    Are we going to be fighting a second civil war soon? The attempt to make the climate debate a human rights issue is a very dangerous thing indeed. Not only have climate fanatics threaten the integrity of environmental consciousness, threaten the credibility of science and now threaten to destroy the concept of human rights they are threatening the foundations of civil discourse.
                    We may very well be heading that way. Those limp-wristed fracking morons who signed this letter, really do seem to think that this is analogous to tobacco.

                    If people with PhD's can be that stupid and/or that dishonest, our educational system is totally FUBAR. Some of the assholes who signed this letter receive Federal tax dollars as part or all of their income. These people need to be drawn and quartered.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
                      Are we going to be fighting a second civil war soon? The attempt to make the climate debate a human rights issue is a very dangerous thing indeed. Not only have climate fanatics threaten the integrity of environmental consciousness, threaten the credibility of science and now threaten to destroy the concept of human rights they are threatening the foundations of civil discourse.
                      I have felt for some time, and have said so repeatedly on this forum, that if we continue on our present course, civil war will be inevitable.
                      Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                        I have felt for some time, and have said so repeatedly on this forum, that if we continue on our present course, civil war will be inevitable.
                        Particularly for the willfully ignorant...
                        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                        Sorry, Doc...I'm sure your comments are both interesting and relevant, but I'm under strict orders to ignore you from the forum management.
                        Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
                        So you have no idea what the post actually says?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Trung Si View Post
                          I guess the thought police will soon appear at my doorstep to arrest me.
                          You have been reported.

                          Signed Trofim Lysenko

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                          • #14
                            How many of these people are Marxist?
                            We hunt the hunters

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
                              How many of these people are Marxist?
                              As Mr. Owl would say, let's find out.

                              Jagadish Shukla, George Mason University, Fairfax, VA: On the IPCC, shared a Nobel Peace prize with Al Gore.

                              Edward Maibach, George Mason University, Fairfax, VA: Dr. Maibach holds a BA in social psychology from University of California at San Diego (1980), an MPH in health promotion from San Diego State University (1983), and a PhD in communication research from Stanford University (1990).

                              Has zero knowledge or background in climate change as a field of study.

                              Paul Dirmeyer, George Mason University, Fairfax, VA: He's a meteorologist. That is, he's highly qualified to be the "weatherman" on the six o'clock news...

                              Ph.D. in Meteorology, December 1992, University of Maryland at College Park. Dissertation title: GCM Studies of the Influence of Vegetation on the General Circulation: The Role of Albedo in Modulating Climate Change.

                              M.S. in Meteorology, December 1988, University of Maryland at College Park. Thesis title: Stationary Solutions in a One-Layer Spectral Model.

                              B.S. in Meteorology (Magna Cum Laude), May 1986, Texas A&M University.

                              Barry Klinger, George Mason University, Fairfax, VA: Oceanographer with a very thin resume.

                              S.B., Physics, Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), 1985
                              Ph.D., Physical Oceanography, MIT-Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, March, 1992.
                              Doctoral Thesis:Eddy generation at a convex corner by a coastal current in a rotating system. Faculty advisor: Dr. J. A. Whitehead

                              Paul Schopf, George Mason University, Fairfax, VA: No background in climate or climate change:

                              Paul Schopf is the Associate Dean for Research and Computing in the George Mason University's College of Science. He received his Ph.D. in Geophysicl Fluid Dynamics from Princeton, and spent 19 years at the NASA Goddard Space Flight Center developing coupled ocean-atmosphere models for climate, before joing the Climate Dynamics faculty at Mason in 1997. He has had extensive experience with supercomputing, serving on source evaluation boards for NASA, user advisory committees, and has seved as the chair of the Earth System Modeling Framework Advisory Board.

                              David Straus, George Mason University, Fairfax, VA: David A. Kravitz is a Professor in the School of Business at George Mason University

                              Another know-nothing on the science of climate.

                              All of the above are part of something called "Rearchgate" which has to do with e-mails and such showing that they were engaged in intellectual fraud and dishonest research on the climate with other climate researchers. Whether that is true or not I leave to others.

                              Edward Sarachik, University of Washington, Seattle, WA: An actual climate scientist!

                              Ph.D., Brandeis University
                              Atmospheric dynamics; large-scale atmosphere-ocean interactions; greenhouse warming; equatorial dynamics; El Niño/Southern Oscillation; climate change.

                              Michael Wallace, University of Washington, Seattle, WA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Michael_Wallace

                              At least he's a climate scientist...

                              Alan Robock, Rutgers University, New Brunswick, NJ: Another weather guesser. PhD in meteorology.

                              Eugenia Kalnay, University of Maryland, College Park, MD: http://www.atmos.umd.edu/~ekalnay/ Another weather guesser.

                              William Lau, University of Maryland, College Park, MD: Apparently a weather guesser but not on the Faculty or staff of this college:

                              http://www.atmos.umd.edu/people/index.php#staff

                              Kevin Trenberth, National Center for Atmospheric Research, Boulder, CO: Another weather guesser

                              http://www.cgd.ucar.edu/staff/trenbert/cv.html

                              T.N. Krishnamurti, Florida State University, Tallahassee, FL: Professor Emeritus and weather guesser.

                              Vasu Misra, Florida State University, Tallahassee, FL: Nobody special...

                              http://coaps.fsu.edu/vasu-misra

                              Ben Kirtman, University of Miami, Miami, FL: Another nobody...

                              http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/people/fa...?p=ben-kirtman

                              Robert Dickinson, University of Texas, Austin, TX: Been around forever but... meh...
                              http://www.jsg.utexas.edu/researcher/robert_dickinson/

                              Michela Biasutti, Earth Institute, Columbia University, New York, NY

                              Grossly under qualified...

                              http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/~biasutti/

                              Mark Cane, Columbia University, New York, NY: Nothing of note here. A PhD nobody.

                              Lisa Goddard, Earth Institute, Columbia University, New York, NY: Goddard holds a PhD in atmospheric and oceanic sciences from Princeton University and a BA in physics from the University of California at Berkeley.

                              Nothing of note in her work however.

                              Alan Betts, Atmospheric Research, Pittsford, VT: Has a great webpage.

                              http://alanbetts.com/about/

                              Anyway, no Communists or Socialists in that group. Rather, they are mainly a bunch of hack "scientists" and weather guessers that really haven't done anything of note other than predict with the accuracy of Jeane Dixon, noted psychic, that the weather changes.

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