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  • Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
    What category would you place the U.S. founding fathers in since they were certainly the liberals of their time?
    They were classic liberals, very different from the definition of the word today. We'd call them libertarians now. The term liberal took on socialist/social democratic meaning during the 20th century and really doesn't fit anymore. Those beliefs are more about what the left considers "fairness" than about liberty.
    Last edited by frisco17; 05 Oct 15, 22:42.
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    • Originally posted by frisco17 View Post
      They were classic liberals, very didn't from the definition of the word today. We'd call them libertarians now. The term liberal took on socialist/social democratic meaning during the 20th century and really doesn't fit anymore. Those beliefs are more about what the left considers "fairness" than about liberty.
      You are right, they were Classic Liberals,
      Definition;

      Classical liberalism is a political ideology that values the freedom of individuals including the freedom of religion, speech, press, assembly, and markets as well as limited government. It developed in 18th-century Europe and drew on the economic writings of Adam Smith and the growing notion of social progress.
      Last edited by Urban hermit; 05 Oct 15, 20:16.
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      • Originally posted by Nichols View Post
        Not too many people in the US own assault weapons, so what is your point?
        I see your ducking the question.
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        • Originally posted by Anthrax View Post
          I see your ducking the question.
          Actually, YOU are the one ducking his question.

          How many people in the US actually own assault weapons? Either you have a number or you are clueless to what an assault weapon is.
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          • Originally posted by Nichols View Post
            Not too many people in the US own assault weapons, so what is your point?
            Oh and incase you want to accuse me of ducking your question, I think you'll find a lot more people own assault weapons then you're willing to admit.

            http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/201...n_america.html

            You can dissect this article, rip it up, call it a liberal lie (which is what you will do), but it makes clear there are a lot of assault weapons owned by Americans. The question is Why?

            However, more importantly, my original question still stands ... and still stands unanswered.
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            • Originally posted by Salinator View Post
              Actually, YOU are the one ducking his question.

              How many people in the US actually own assault weapons? Either you have a number or you are clueless to what an assault weapon is.
              Okay, I answered the question, now you answer mine? Or are you and the rest going to continue to duck and dodge the question?

              When I come back in a couple of days I'm sure I'll continue to see nothing but silence on the question.
              Conservatives in the U.S. won't be happy until Jim Crow returns and "White Heterosexual Only" signs are legalized.

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              • Originally posted by Anthrax View Post
                Oh and incase you want to accuse me of ducking your question, I think you'll find a lot more people own assault weapons then you're willing to admit.

                http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/201...n_america.html

                You can dissect this article, rip it up, call it a liberal lie (which is what you will do), but it makes clear there are a lot of assault weapons owned by Americans. The question is Why?

                However, more importantly, my original question still stands ... and still stands unanswered.
                No your original question is still BS.

                Those are not assault weapons. Once you show all those specific guns that are made to look like military weapon are actually used by REAL Militaries as their assault weapon, then you can talk.

                Buying a civilian Hummer is not the same as buying a Humvee. Yet by comparison, maybe you ought to call a Hummer an "assault vehicle".
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                • Originally posted by Anthrax View Post
                  Oh and incase you want to accuse me of ducking your question, I think you'll find a lot more people own assault weapons then you're willing to admit.

                  http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/201...n_america.html

                  You can dissect this article, rip it up, call it a liberal lie (which is what you will do), but it makes clear there are a lot of assault weapons owned by Americans. The question is Why?

                  However, more importantly, my original question still stands ... and still stands unanswered.
                  Anthrax, you don't know what an automatic weapon is, how do you plan on discussing this?

                  Study, learn, then come back and discuss.

                  BTW, do you even comprehend what Porton Down was doing with anthrax. Good thing you're not in Afghanistan.....you might be raped.
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                  • Originally posted by Anthrax View Post
                    When I come back in a couple of days I'm sure I'll continue to see nothing but silence on the question.
                    Oh no you don't.
                    First define "Assault Weapon".
                    Do you mean full-auto, or just a black gun with a few scary-looking bits attached?
                    (like Diane Finestien does?)

                    Give us something to go by.
                    I honestly don't know the numbers myself, expect for one sort- I can tell you what the full-auto kind will cost you, and it will make your jaw drop, I guarantee it.
                    Very, very few people could afford the real thing.

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                    • Originally posted by Salinator View Post
                      No your original question is still BS.

                      Those are not assault weapons. Once you show all those specific guns that are made to look like military weapon are actually used by REAL Militaries as their assault weapon, then you can talk.

                      Buying a civilian Hummer is not the same as buying a Humvee. Yet by comparison, maybe you ought to call a Hummer an "assault vehicle".
                      But my old Ford really was a tank!

                      You know, big, heavy, and hard to park at the grocery store.

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                      • Originally posted by Anthrax View Post
                        When I come back in a couple of days I'm sure I'll continue to see nothing but silence on the question.
                        Looking forward to more of your ignorant, uninformed tripe, as well as your classic dodges to questions and of course, most of all, you're hysterical lack of common sense. Hope you don't stay away too long.
                        The First Amendment applies to SMS, Emails, Blogs, online news, the Fourth applies to your cell phone, computer, and your car, but the Second only applies to muskets?

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