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  • Trung Si
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    Originally posted by sebfrench76 View Post
    Hint: try the Kurds.
    Better investment,what you pay is what you get.
    Yes but BHO won't do that, he is afraid of offending the Turks who are as useless as teats on a bore hog, they find it more important to fight the Kurds than ISIS!
    Last edited by Trung Si; 25 Sep 15, 15:55.

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  • sebfrench76
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    Hint: try the Kurds.
    Better investment,what you pay is what you get.

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
    Considering the political realities, sending our soldiers into Syria was (and is) a no go.
    Unless, of course, your name just happens to be Barack Hussein.

    "Nothing is impossible if you are going to order someone else to do it."
    MMBBQQ

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  • Daemon of Decay
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    Considering the political realities, sending our soldiers into Syria was (and is) a no go.

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  • andrewza
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    Thats why US officers lead them.

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  • Pruitt
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    The problem with this approach is many Middle Eastern countries make officers of politically safe people. These people are not always good officers.

    Pruitt

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  • andrewza
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    Wow tac. Thats kind of how 32 battlion got formerd. They where so good that they ended up getting citzenship and put on the SADF role. But it started with a few speciol forces guys training some rebels and leading them.

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  • TacCovert4
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    Agreed. If we were going to do this, we should have done it right. A Special Operations Detachment should have been sent in to train the troops, and provide Officers. We should have set our floor at 2 full platoons to start, and our ceiling at a full company to start. Those would have then formed the cadre, from which the best of them would be made officers and NCOs over the ensuing battalion evolution.

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  • MarkV
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    Perhaps the best example of how to do it right was the Assyrian Levies who served in Northern Iraq from the 1930s through until post WW2. Trained by the RAF. A mixture of Christians and Zoastrians and a very tough bunch by all accounts. But the RAF didn't just train them they supplied officers who led by example - that's the difference.

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  • andrewza
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    What did you expect.


    The concept is all right but the excustion is sloppy. In my opion the best example of training up a local fighting force is 32 battlion of the SADF. It worked because the locals where trained to be proper solders, led by expercied south African officers and senior NCOs and recieved support from the rest of the SADF. Training a bunch of men for a few weeks and sending them on there merry way is asking to fail. And 70 men? Really? Thats not even a full company.

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  • rkohut
    started a topic If you trust a cheat you'll probably get cheated

    If you trust a cheat you'll probably get cheated

    The Iraqis ran away and let ISIS have their weaponry, did anyone expect better of the Syrians ?

    US-trained Division 30 rebels 'betray US and hand weapons over to al-Qaeda's affiliate in Syria'

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-in-Syria.html

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