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    The Iraqis ran away and let ISIS have their weaponry, did anyone expect better of the Syrians ?

    US-trained Division 30 rebels 'betray US and hand weapons over to al-Qaeda's affiliate in Syria'

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-in-Syria.html

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    What did you expect.


    The concept is all right but the excustion is sloppy. In my opion the best example of training up a local fighting force is 32 battlion of the SADF. It worked because the locals where trained to be proper solders, led by expercied south African officers and senior NCOs and recieved support from the rest of the SADF. Training a bunch of men for a few weeks and sending them on there merry way is asking to fail. And 70 men? Really? Thats not even a full company.
    you think you a real "bleep" solders you "bleep" plastic solders don't wory i will make you in to real "bleep" solders!! "bleep" plastic solders

    CPO Mzinyati

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    • #3
      Perhaps the best example of how to do it right was the Assyrian Levies who served in Northern Iraq from the 1930s through until post WW2. Trained by the RAF. A mixture of Christians and Zoastrians and a very tough bunch by all accounts. But the RAF didn't just train them they supplied officers who led by example - that's the difference.
      Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
      Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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      • #4
        Agreed. If we were going to do this, we should have done it right. A Special Operations Detachment should have been sent in to train the troops, and provide Officers. We should have set our floor at 2 full platoons to start, and our ceiling at a full company to start. Those would have then formed the cadre, from which the best of them would be made officers and NCOs over the ensuing battalion evolution.
        Tacitos, Satrap of Kyrene

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        • #5
          Wow tac. Thats kind of how 32 battlion got formerd. They where so good that they ended up getting citzenship and put on the SADF role. But it started with a few speciol forces guys training some rebels and leading them.
          you think you a real "bleep" solders you "bleep" plastic solders don't wory i will make you in to real "bleep" solders!! "bleep" plastic solders

          CPO Mzinyati

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          • #6
            The problem with this approach is many Middle Eastern countries make officers of politically safe people. These people are not always good officers.

            Pruitt
            Pruitt, you are truly an expert! Kelt06

            Have you been struck by the jawbone of an ASS lately?

            by Khepesh "This is the logic of Pruitt"

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            • #7
              Thats why US officers lead them.
              you think you a real "bleep" solders you "bleep" plastic solders don't wory i will make you in to real "bleep" solders!! "bleep" plastic solders

              CPO Mzinyati

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              • #8
                Considering the political realities, sending our soldiers into Syria was (and is) a no go.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
                  Considering the political realities, sending our soldiers into Syria was (and is) a no go.
                  Unless, of course, your name just happens to be Barack Hussein.

                  "Nothing is impossible if you are going to order someone else to do it."
                  MMBBQQ
                  Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                  • #10
                    Hint: try the Kurds.
                    Better investment,what you pay is what you get.
                    That rug really tied the room together

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by sebfrench76 View Post
                      Hint: try the Kurds.
                      Better investment,what you pay is what you get.
                      Yes but BHO won't do that, he is afraid of offending the Turks who are as useless as teats on a bore hog, they find it more important to fight the Kurds than ISIS!
                      Last edited by Trung Si; 25 Sep 15, 15:55.
                      Trying hard to be the Man, that my Dog believes I am!

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