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  • Well, looks like Syrian refugees will integrate well into Europe!

    They've already picked up the cultural habit of blaming the US for everything.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...oFI?li=AAa0dzB

    “Iraq’s problem is America’s problem,” said Abdul, who said he was a translator for the United States during the Iraq war, making him a target. “This crisis is America’s problem. In Iraq, Syria, all over, the U.S. did not do enough.”


    Don't get me wrong. I totally believe that Obama ed up the response to the rise of ISIS. But the crisis is not America's problem. In Iraq you had Iraqi military with all manner of modern US firepower being challenged by what was essentially a rabble and the Iraqi army voided trousers and ran. America did plenty for Iraq, far more than it should have, and Iraq dropped the ball. That guy has some nerve blaming America for that.

    Asshat Assad is Russian backed, they might want to blame Putin for his depredations. And while it would be nice to just pull every civilian out before gassing both sides, Assad and ISIS, it unfortunately isn't that simple or easy.

    I agree we could be doing more. I agree we should be doing more. But the fact that we aren't doing more isn't what is causing this problem. Radical Islam is what is causing this problem. And until mainstream Islam is willing to address this problem and stamp it out, there is little the US can do besides sweep up the damage and kill off the infestation when it gets too close.
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    Even if we did solve every problem in the world, they would still hate us for how we solved it.
    And we can't, there would be nothing left of us before we got halfway there.

    We have established that the middle east cannot be effectively governed by any form of Govt other aside from a military dictatorship.
    We are the wrong people to set that sort of thing up.
    Sounds more like China's field to me. If they are really such a rising power they could do more than making sand castles in the South China Sea.
    "Why is the Rum gone?"

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Pirateship1982 View Post
      They've already picked up the cultural habit of blaming the US for everything.

      http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...oFI?li=AAa0dzB



      Don't get me wrong. I totally believe that Obama ed up the response to the rise of ISIS. But the crisis is not America's problem. In Iraq you had Iraqi military with all manner of modern US firepower being challenged by what was essentially a rabble and the Iraqi army voided trousers and ran. America did plenty for Iraq, far more than it should have, and Iraq dropped the ball. That guy has some nerve blaming America for that.

      Asshat Assad is Russian backed, they might want to blame Putin for his depredations. And while it would be nice to just pull every civilian out before gassing both sides, Assad and ISIS, it unfortunately isn't that simple or easy.

      I agree we could be doing more. I agree we should be doing more. But the fact that we aren't doing more isn't what is causing this problem. Radical Islam is what is causing this problem. And until mainstream Islam is willing to address this problem and stamp it out, there is little the US can do besides sweep up the damage and kill off the infestation when it gets too close.
      It's always easier to blame someone else like America for your own failures, and it's endemic throughout the world, which is both incredibly ironic and incredibly hypocritical since no matter what we do, everyone complains about it.

      Iraq, we all recall, couldn't wait for America to leave their "sacred soil", but of course, it's our fault they haven;t got the guts to fight for their own freedom and their own national sovereignty.

      The rest of the world needs to man up, step up and shoulder the responsibility instead of constantly whining about what others "didn't do."
      Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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      • #4
        It's not as if the middle east was a region of harmony and tranquility before the US came along. I agree that there's a bit of a double standard when it comes to assigning blame for what's going on there. Terrorist attacks provoke US response, US response provokes further terrorist actions, yet the only blame assigned is to the US. In fact the blame still falls on Bush almost 7 years after Obama took over.
        At some point the people who live in the middle east need to start behaving like 21st century human beings and take some responsibility for what goes on there. The extremists in the middle east know damn well they are behaving contrary to what's expected of modern people...that's why they hide their faces.

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        • #5
          If the refugees were so desperate, why don't they just go to neighboring countries?
          "We have no white flag."

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          • #6
            Because of the benefits that some of the countries give. Free medical care, housing, ect...
            Credo quia absurdum.


            Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman

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            • #7
              Originally posted by GMan88 View Post
              If the refugees were so desperate, why don't they just go to neighboring countries?
              Because the other Middle Eastern Muslim nations don;t want them and won't take them, and that tells us all we need to know about them.

              Germany, meanwhile, is now sorry they opened the door to them.
              Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by GMan88 View Post
                If the refugees were so desperate, why don't they just go to neighboring countries?
                Middle East refugees choosing destination based on handouts

                MALMO, Sweden (AP) — The bleary-eyed travelers arriving in Malmo's glass-and-steel train station agreed on one thing: Sweden was a better place to go than Denmark, which has cut welfare benefits for refugees.

                But many said Finland was even better.

                "Why Finland? I tell you, because they give us the documents faster," said Ghanem, a 23-year-old Iraqi, who like many making the journey declined to give his full name. They are worried about being identified by authorities and prevented from going to their preferred destinations. "Sweden, Germany, they will take one year, two years."

                Though the 28-nation European Union has common rules for how to receive asylum-seekers, the benefits provided once they arrive vary widely from one country to the next.
                ...
                http://www.gopusa.com/news/2015/09/1.../?subscriber=1

                BTW, many aren't from Syria

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
                  We have established that the middle east cannot be effectively governed by any form of Govt other aside from a military dictatorship.
                  Yeah, we have. Maybe we should just have let them decide what they want and this whole mess would could have been avoided.
                  Wisdom is personal

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Karri View Post
                    Yeah, we have. Maybe we should just have let them decide what they want and this whole mess would could have been avoided.
                    It seems they're in the process of deciding right now, which is why we have all these "migrants".
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                    • #11
                      gee, why are there no lines going into that Putins Palace???
                      "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                      Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                      you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
                        gee, why are there no lines going into that Putins Palace???
                        To go to Russia you have to be prepared to drink vodka..

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                        • #13
                          What this thread is doing here since it's about Arabs and Europe ?
                          There are no Nazis in Ukraine. © Idiots

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Emtos View Post
                            What this thread is doing here since it's about Arabs and Europe ?
                            The article mentioned the word "America". That seemed to be sufficient for the OP.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Gixxer86g View Post
                              It seems they're in the process of deciding right now, which is why we have all these "migrants".
                              No. We have all these migrants because Middle-East has been a (unconventional)warzone for over a decade. Because we helped them topple their regimes. Of course, not to say we are at fault for everything. But we are at fault for meddling and making things worse. Certainly we did not make them better.
                              Wisdom is personal

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