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  • wolfhnd
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Oh great. The Man Who Would Be King decides that we should take 12,000 refugees from a civil war that he's totally hosed up US foreign policy on.

    It isn't the US's fault or responsibility that Syria is having a civil war. But, it is in part Obama's fault that there has been a massive resurgence of Radical Islam and Muslim terrorism in the Middle East. That has much to do with his horridly inept foreign policy failures and lack of ability to understand military affairs.

    I'll tell you what... If Obama personally agrees to take 8 to 10 of these refugees into his home and be legally responsible for them in every way for a period of 5 years from the day he leaves office, I'll go along with his plan.
    Of course, if that were to actually happen we wouldn't be getting 12,000 refugees from Syria. The second they become in part his personal problem is the second he stops caring for them. So long as they become somebody else's problem after they arrive he's good with bringing them here.
    It's pretty easy to be a Liberal politician all you have to do is figure out how to exploit "white" male guilt. It is almost impossible to produce a soundbite argument against Liberals who have pretty well capture the people with a heart position.

    Take a look at the things that Liberals are against rape, refugee suffering, people without medical care, hunger, war, poverty, discrimination, military spending, corporations etc. If you attempt to articulate any kind of coherent policy on these issue you will simply be drowned out by the screaming chorus of twitter storm troopers and their associates. The same goes for what they are for. The environment, peace, fairness, equality, democracy, health, etc.

    It's pretty hard to explain that being against immigration does not mean that you are against immigrants. Unfortunately many conservatives come across sounding that way. If your values include hard work, self reliance, competition based equality, a republic in stead of a democracy, integration instead of multiculturalism, and military preparedness it's going to be hard to sell yourself as sensitive to people feelings.

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Oh great. The Man Who Would Be King decides that we should take 12,000 refugees from a civil war that he's totally hosed up US foreign policy on.

    It isn't the US's fault or responsibility that Syria is having a civil war. But, it is in part Obama's fault that there has been a massive resurgence of Radical Islam and Muslim terrorism in the Middle East. That has much to do with his horridly inept foreign policy failures and lack of ability to understand military affairs.

    I'll tell you what... If Obama personally agrees to take 8 to 10 of these refugees into his home and be legally responsible for them in every way for a period of 5 years from the day he leaves office, I'll go along with his plan.
    Of course, if that were to actually happen we wouldn't be getting 12,000 refugees from Syria. The second they become in part his personal problem is the second he stops caring for them. So long as they become somebody else's problem after they arrive he's good with bringing them here.

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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
    A community organizer specializes in teaching people how to get something for nothing.
    Yup, well "nothing" from those with the hand-out. The "something" is always OPM - Other People's Money.

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  • Trung Si
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    Originally posted by Hida Akechi View Post
    Always follow RULE #1: If Obama says it's a good idea, it's a bad one and should be countered at every opportunity.
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    What he said, if it's Obamas Idea, it's not a good one and if anyone hasn't learned that by now I consider him a blind Fool!

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  • wolfhnd
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    A community organizer specializes in teaching people how to get something for nothing.

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  • Tsar
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    Originally posted by Taieb el-Okbi View Post
    I find it likely that a # of Catholic Churches(Protestant and other types as well) in the USA will take in some of these refugees.
    Tell you what, why don’t we get rid of the 12,000,000 illegal immigrants that are already in this country than we can talk about letting in others that want to jump the line, okay?

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  • Mountain Man
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    However, these "immigrants" are getting a free first class ticket to citizenship form Wonder Boy himself, and they're from the Middle East.

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  • Pruitt
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    I like the legal immigrants fine. You know they follow rules to get in. We get all kinds of immigrants, legal and illegal. I can't say I like illegals. If you can get across the Rio Grande and make it to Westheimer Street in Houston you will find people that can sell you ANY kind of official documents you ask for.

    How do I know this? Katrina Refugees fled to Houston and were given debit cards by FEMA and many went and bought driver's licenses that said they were over 21! We busted a number of them at the Casino, but many "passed". Some Hood Rats from the Big Easy tried to take over turf in Houston, San Antonio and Dallas. It did not end well for them!

    Pruitt

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  • G David Bock
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    EXCERPT:
    House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Rep. Michael McCaul (R-TX) stated, “we don’t have human intelligence on the ground properly in Syria, to have the database that’s sufficient to vet these individuals to know that they’re not threats” regarding the Syrian refugees on Thursday’s “America’s Newsroom” on the Fox News Channel.

    McCaul said, “I just got out of a briefing with homeland security officials, FBI, counterterrorism, and the concern, Martha, is that we don’t have human intelligence on the ground properly in Syria, to have the database that’s sufficient to vet these individuals to know that they’re not threats. ....

    McCaul also wondered, “Why aren’t the Gulf states taking these people?” And stated that he would be “putting a lot of pressure on the Gulf states to absorb this refugee crisis” and that they are “better equipped” to handle the crisis than the US.
    http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/...rian-refugees/

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  • Hida Akechi
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    Terrible idea. But not surprising. Obama can shove his "order" straight up his ass. I don't want any of these "refugees" anywhere near me or my friends or family, nor near any place I visit. In fact, I don't want them in my country at all. They should instead be fixing their own countries instead of relying on free hand outs from our government.

    If Obama wants them, he can house them in the White House. But not one foot of American soil should be given to them. Rough...don't care. Always follow RULE #1: If Obama says it's a good idea, it's a bad one and should be countered at every opportunity.

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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by Taieb el-Okbi View Post
    Well you live in a Southern state closer to the Mexican border then I am...how do you find the immigrants in your state? We have immigrants here in NY..from the ME, Asia, Europe, South America, I find these folks in general to be tolerate, contributing members to society.
    More than 90 percent of recent refugees from Middle Eastern nations are on food stamps and nearly 70 percent receive cash assistance, according to government data.

    According to Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) data highlighted by the immigration subcommittee staff of Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) — chairman of the Subcommittee on Immigration and the National Interest — in FY 2013, 91.4 percent of Middle Eastern refugees (accepted to the U.S. between 2008-2013) received food stamps, 73.1 percent were on Medicaid or Refugee Medical Assistance and 68.3 percent were on cash welfare.

    Middle Eastern refugees used a number of other assistance programs at slightly lower rates. For example, 36.7 percent received Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), 32.1 percent received Supplemental Security Income (SSI), 19.7 percent lived in public housing, 17.3 percent were on General Assistance (GA), and 10.9 percent received Refugee Cash Assistance (RCA).

    The high welfare rates among Middle Eastern refugees comes as the Obama administration considers increasing the number of refugees — who are immediately eligible for public benefits — to the U.S., particularly Syrian refugees.
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    http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...n-food-stamps/

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  • Taieb el-Okbi
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    Originally posted by Pruitt View Post
    I think this is a bad idea. Wh would pay to bring them here? If they can only get to Mexico they can slip over the border on their own! We already have too many illegals here.

    Pruitt
    Well you live in a Southern state closer to the Mexican border then I am...how do you find the immigrants in your state? We have immigrants here in NY..from the ME, Asia, Europe, South America, I find these folks in general to be tolerate, contributing members to society.

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  • Taieb el-Okbi
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    Originally posted by Tsar View Post
    I’m all for his administration accepting them, as long as the rest of us don’t have to take them. But I’m willing to bet that none of his administration lets any of them live in their houses or even their neighborhoods.
    I find it likely that a # of Catholic Churches(Protestant and other types as well) in the USA will take in some of these refugees.

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  • Pruitt
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    I think this is a bad idea. Wh would pay to bring them here? If they can only get to Mexico they can slip over the border on their own! We already have too many illegals here.

    Pruitt

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  • Taieb el-Okbi
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    Originally posted by BobTheBarbarian View Post
    If we're going to accept anyone, it should be children or elderly. Many of the rest of them are potential terrorists and an unacceptable security risk.

    What is more, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, the UAE, and Saudi Arabia have taken exactly zero (0) Syrian refugees. Let the Arabs take care of their own before they are pushed on us. Seems like our "allies" in the ME are always trying to distance themselves from the US, except when it involves a danger to themselves...
    ME allies of the USA such as Jordan, Iraq, Turkey, Egypt, have taken in millions of refugees.

    I agree the gulf states should accept refugees. I would wager Gulf State politicians are arguing among each other about this refugee issue , same for politicians in Israel.

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