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  • Mountain Man
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    Good news! After a preliminary survey, it turns out there is room for Obama's refugees on the White House lawn, where Michelle will be in charge of their diet and Obama will lead them in prayers to Mecca four times a day.

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  • Hida Akechi
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    Originally posted by Merkava188 View Post
    How many more bad ideas can Obama come up with? How many of these "refugees" are ISIS supporters?
    As long as he's in power, he'll try to come up with as many as he can. Why stop now, his legacy is one bad idea after another.

    As for ISIS, count on many of them being ISIS supporters. They'll use this as a free trip to the US and jump at the chance to cause us harm. At our taxpayer's expense, as well.

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Only because the Democrats / Progressive Left haven't gotten their way and gutted it...



    And, totally irrelevant. How does diversity equal success? Has America's success increased, decreased, or stayed the same because of diversity? I'd say diversity makes zero difference, or close enough to it. On the other hand, of late diversity in the form of useless illegals and worthless refugees has been a net drain on the economy.


    Actually, our success has decreased and our social problems have dramatically increased due to "diversity", also known as "Balkanization".

    The original intent was for everyone to become Americans, all speaking the same language and following the same laws, not forming separate cultures within our nation.

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
    It's not a question of helping them or not helping them it is how we help them. Syria is just the tip of the iceberg of potential immigrants. American fought in two world wars to secure the planet from the kind of horror that IS represents and now we are asking the people of the Middle East to step up and do their part. It has not been a free ride for Europeans and the U.S. to get to the point where they are attractive locations for immigrants and it should not be considered cruel to expect others to make the same sacrifices as say the Russians made fighting the Nazis.

    Assist them yes allow them to ignore their responsibilities no.
    Excellent response. If you run for president you've got my vote.

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  • Gixxer86g
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    Originally posted by Taieb el-Okbi View Post
    ME allies of the USA such as Jordan, Iraq, Turkey, Egypt, have taken in millions of refugees.

    I agree the gulf states should accept refugees. I would wager Gulf State politicians are arguing among each other about this refugee issue , same for politicians in Israel.
    Wow, everyone has taken millions of refugees! Is there anyone left in Syria to fight?

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by Taieb el-Okbi View Post
    I find that the USA continues to be a successful country. Among the strengths of modern day USA

    1. Best Military in the world
    Only because the Democrats / Progressive Left haven't gotten their way and gutted it...

    2. Diverse country inclusive of successful people from India, Pakistan, China, Japan, Iran, Israel, the list goes on and on.
    And, totally irrelevant. How does diversity equal success? Has America's success increased, decreased, or stayed the same because of diversity? I'd say diversity makes zero difference, or close enough to it. On the other hand, of late diversity in the form of useless illegals and worthless refugees has been a net drain on the economy.

    3. An abundance of hi paying jobs compared to many other countries in the world.
    Again, not for want of trying to kill them off by Democrats and Progressives. How many jobs have been lost because of the billions upon billions spent on regulatory compliance with just Obama's regfest of the last 6 years?
    America has succeeded despite the Left's best attempts to castrate it.

    Here's a clear proof Obama and all those bleeding hearts are dead nuts wrong on immigration and letting refugees come. The math devastates their puny arguments from emotional empty-headedness.

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  • Tsar
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    Originally posted by Taieb el-Okbi View Post
    I find that your taking a unnecessary approach here. We cant just get rid of 12,000,000 illegal or undocumented immigrants. Its just not going to happen, we will not have a situation where folks are getting packed into trucks and then sent to some other place. Imo George Washington would be against this idea of forcibly sending millions of people whom are in this country, to some other place.
    First, they are not immigrants they are criminals.
    Second, we wouldn’t send them to “some other place” we would be sending them back to their country of origin.
    Third, I doubt that George Washington would approve of an invasion by foreign countries that amounted to 10,000,000-20,000,000 men.

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  • wolfhnd
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    It's not a question of helping them or not helping them it is how we help them. Syria is just the tip of the iceberg of potential immigrants. American fought in two world wars to secure the planet from the kind of horror that IS represents and now we are asking the people of the Middle East to step up and do their part. It has not been a free ride for Europeans and the U.S. to get to the point where they are attractive locations for immigrants and it should not be considered cruel to expect others to make the same sacrifices as say the Russians made fighting the Nazis.

    Assist them yes allow them to ignore their responsibilities no.

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  • Pruitt
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    Maybe the House and Senate can pass a resolution saying we can't spend money on transporting any of these people here. Let someone else pay for their tickets.

    Pruitt

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  • Taieb el-Okbi
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    Praise be to God that so many good people are helping out these refugees. We are seeing Christian and non Christian folks helping out these refugees.

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  • Taieb el-Okbi
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    If folks think that the USA should not accept Iraqis due to Iraqis poverty rate, then the doors are shut for Israelites.

    The “depth of poverty” in Israel has worsened, with the average income of poor families in 2010 at 31 percent below the poverty line.

    This was one of the findings of a study from the Jerusalem-based Taub Center for Social Policy Studies in Israel to be released on Thursday.


    ....

    The healthcare system is experiencing a serious crisis, with public expenditure low relative to other countries with nationalized, universal healthcare services, the researchers wrote.

    Unlike other countries, where private expenditure on health comes mainly from private insurance, in Israel it is mostly out-of-pocket payments by patients.

    http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Pov...untries-406416

    I find successful people coming from Iraq, Israel, Pakistan. Specifically one can note how Pakistan and India produces many doctors.

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  • Taieb el-Okbi
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    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
    More than 90 percent of recent refugees from Middle Eastern nations are on food stamps and nearly 70 percent receive cash assistance, according to government data.

    According to Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) data highlighted by the immigration subcommittee staff of Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) — chairman of the Subcommittee on Immigration and the National Interest — in FY 2013, 91.4 percent of Middle Eastern refugees (accepted to the U.S. between 2008-2013) received food stamps, 73.1 percent were on Medicaid or Refugee Medical Assistance and 68.3 percent were on cash welfare.

    Middle Eastern refugees used a number of other assistance programs at slightly lower rates. For example, 36.7 percent received Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), 32.1 percent received Supplemental Security Income (SSI), 19.7 percent lived in public housing, 17.3 percent were on General Assistance (GA), and 10.9 percent received Refugee Cash Assistance (RCA).

    The high welfare rates among Middle Eastern refugees comes as the Obama administration considers increasing the number of refugees — who are immediately eligible for public benefits — to the U.S., particularly Syrian refugees.
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    http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...n-food-stamps/


    Iraq,

    Poverty headcount ratio at national poverty lines (% of population)
    18.9%

    http://data.worldbank.org/country/iraq


    I will remind that Iraq is an ally of the USA,

    The Strategic Framework Agreement for a Relationship of Friendship and Cooperation between the United States and the Republic of Iraq (PDF version full text - 647 KB) guides our overall political, economic, cultural, and security ties with Iraq. This agreement is designed to help the Iraqi people stand on their own and reinforce Iraqi sovereignty, while protecting U.S. interests in the Middle East. The SFA normalizes the U.S.-Iraqi relationship with strong economic, diplomatic, cultural, and security cooperation and serves as the foundation for a long-term bilateral relationship based on mutual goals.


    http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/6804.htm

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  • Merkava188
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    How many more bad ideas can Obama come up with? How many of these "refugees" are ISIS supporters?

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  • Taieb el-Okbi
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Oh great. The Man Who Would Be King decides that we should take 12,000 refugees from a civil war that he's totally hosed up US foreign policy on.

    It isn't the US's fault or responsibility that Syria is having a civil war. But, it is in part Obama's fault that there has been a massive resurgence of Radical Islam and Muslim terrorism in the Middle East. That has much to do with his horridly inept foreign policy failures and lack of ability to understand military affairs.

    I'll tell you what... If Obama personally agrees to take 8 to 10 of these refugees into his home and be legally responsible for them in every way for a period of 5 years from the day he leaves office, I'll go along with his plan.
    Of course, if that were to actually happen we wouldn't be getting 12,000 refugees from Syria. The second they become in part his personal problem is the second he stops caring for them. So long as they become somebody else's problem after they arrive he's good with bringing them here.



    I find that the USA continues to be a successful country. Among the strengths of modern day USA

    1. Best Military in the world

    2. Diverse country inclusive of successful people from India, Pakistan, China, Japan, Iran, Israel, the list goes on and on.

    3. An abundance of high paying jobs compared to many other countries in the world.
    Last edited by Taieb el-Okbi; 11 Sep 15, 15:49. Reason: fixed an error

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  • Taieb el-Okbi
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    Originally posted by Tsar View Post
    Tell you what, why don’t we get rid of the 12,000,000 illegal immigrants that are already in this country than we can talk about letting in others that want to jump the line, okay?
    I find that your taking a unnecessary approach here. We cant just get rid of 12,000,000 illegal or undocumented immigrants. Its just not going to happen, we will not have a situation where folks are getting packed into trucks and then sent to some other place. Imo George Washington would be against this idea of forcibly sending millions of people whom are in this country, to some other place.

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