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    In his initial proposal, Obama had mandated a 30% nationwide cut in carbon dioxide emissions by 2030, compared to 2005 levels. The final version will require a 32% cut instead, said the officials, who weren’t authorized to comment by name and requested anonymity.
    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...emissions-cuts

    The president surely does not have the authority to mandate these things?

    From what I have read even if this limits are met it will have little overall effect on future climate according to the IPCC itself?

    Why is Rand Paul spending his time fighting Planned ParentHood instead of this unconstitutional disaster?
    We hunt the hunters

  • #2
    He does not, and many key elements will require Congressional approval which is unlikely to be forthcoming.
    Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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    • #3
      Worse for Obama, the next President could simply resend any executive order he made on this.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
        ...Why is Rand Paul spending his time fighting Planned ParentHood instead of this unconstitutional disaster?...
        You'll have to ask Rand.

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        • #5
          Dear Leader Chairman Maobama is hellbent to deliver on this campaign promise...

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          • #6
            In light of the recent SCOTUS ruling on EPA's MACT rule, the States should simply say, "no"...
            States Should Shun the EPA’s New Power Mandate
            The agency has failed to properly weigh the costs, even though the Supreme Court says it must.


            By HAL QUINN And PETER GLASER
            Aug. 2, 2015 5:29 p.m. ET

            On Monday President Obama is announcing the final version of his Clean Power Plan, the carbon-emission rules for power plants to secure his climate-change legacy. The plan is designed to hobble electricity generators much as the Environmental Protection Agency’s 2012 rule to reduce mercury and other emissions has harmed the coal industry.

            Fortunately for consumers, on June 29 the Supreme Court slapped down the agency’s 2012 rule. In Michigan v. EPA, the court said the agency failed its legal obligation to compare the cost of its mercury standards with the benefits.

            Reckless disregard for costs has also guided the agency’s Clean Power Plan.

            [...]

            If the EPA succeeds, Americans will be paying for decades. NERA Economic Consulting estimates that the Clean Power Plan will cost $366 billion and bring double-digit electricity-rate increases to 43 states. Regulators including the North American Electric Reliability Corporation warn that the plan could weaken the reliability of the national electric grid by forcing many power plants to close well before new ones can be built. Yet even the administration admits that the EPA plan will have only a trivial impact on the climate.

            [...]

            The Clean Power Plan depends on states’ bowing to the EPA by drawing up plans that make their power supplies less diverse and more expensive. Without state complicity, the EPA’s ambitious carbon-reduction target is not achievable within the bounds of its legal authority and technical competence.

            The governors of Oklahoma, Mississippi, Wisconsin, Indiana, Texas and Louisiana have already done the calculations and decided that the cost of collaborating with the EPA will be much higher than declining to do so. Especially with the legal prospects of the Clean Power Plan growing dimmer, there’s no reason for other governors to voluntarily turn the lights off on their economies.

            Mr. Quinn is president and chief executive of the National Mining Association. Mr. Glaser, a partner at Troutman Sanders LLP, represented the association before the Supreme Court in Michigan v. EPA.

            http://www.wsj.com/articles/states-s...ate-1438550971

            Step one will be a multi-State lawsuit demanding a stay on implementation of this abominable rule until litigation is completed. With the MACT ruling fresh in the court's mind and Laurence Tribe on America's side, a stay and a slap down of the EPA and Maobama is a good bet.
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            • #7
              It's sad that nowadays Democrats are the only ones that ever deliver on campaign promises.
              “I do not wish to have the slave emancipated because I love him, but because I hate his master."
              --Salmon P. Chase

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              • #9
                What's wrong with CO2 again? I thought it was a beneficial gas. Also, I believe an attempt by the US to lower any type of emissions is a waste of time until the world can get places like China, India and Mexico to lower their own pollution output. I looked at a pollution index published by Yale and saw that the US is not bad as far as air quality: 38th out of 178. This may not seem too good but the high score for overall air quality is 100 and the US is 96.41. On the other hand, air quality in China is 18.81. Bangladesh is 13 and change! We can improve our air quality but it may be at the expense of more jobs lost overseas where manufacturing is done without the handicap of requiring clean factories. Maybe we should start outlawing the import of products made in places like China and India until they comply with minimum clean air standards too. I think that's what our government can do to positively affect the environment.

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                • #10
                  Originally posted by Savez View Post
                  It's sad that nowadays Democrats are the only ones that ever deliver on campaign promises.
                  WHOA!! BS ALERT!! BS ALERT!!
                  Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                  • #11
                    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                    WHOA!! BS ALERT!! BS ALERT!!
                    BS ? We have Obamacare and the war on coal. Obama has made good on his threats. The Republicans have done nothing since November but pander to the Democrats who are fulfilling their campaign promises.
                    “I do not wish to have the slave emancipated because I love him, but because I hate his master."
                    --Salmon P. Chase

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                    • #12
                      Originally posted by Savez View Post
                      BS ? We have Obamacare and the war on coal. Obama has made good on his threats. The Republicans have done nothing since November but pander to the Democrats who are fulfilling their campaign promises.
                      Over his head.
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                      • #13
                        Originally posted by Savez View Post
                        BS ? We have Obamacare and the war on coal. Obama has made good on his threats. The Republicans have done nothing since November but pander to the Democrats who are fulfilling their campaign promises.
                        Rep John Boehner and Senator Mitch McConnell are not only doing the bidding of the Democrats, they are attacking those conservatives that were elected in 2014 to try and put a stop to this madness.

                        Once implemented, we will be facing energy rationing as the rest of the manufacturing jobs, including those that locally produce all of the semiconductor grade silicon used in solar panels and electronics in the US, to China, a country where there is zero concern over the environment and the dirtiest of coal, with no emissions controls at all, is used to produce the energy needed.
                        “Breaking News,”

                        “Something irrelevant in your life just happened and now we are going to blow it all out of proportion for days to keep you distracted from what's really going on.”

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                        • #14
                          Originally posted by Savez View Post
                          BS ? We have Obamacare and the war on coal. Obama has made good on his threats. The Republicans have done nothing since November but pander to the Democrats who are fulfilling their campaign promises.
                          A threat is not a promise. Bo Bo made a lot of promises, none of which he made good on, while atthe same time he has almost destroyed America. You can worship your hero if you like, but don;t expect enthusiasm from the rest of us.
                          Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                          • #15
                            Originally posted by SRV Ron View Post
                            Rep John Boehner and Senator Mitch McConnell are not only doing the bidding of the Democrats, they are attacking those conservatives that were elected in 2014 to try and put a stop to this madness.

                            Once implemented, we will be facing energy rationing as the rest of the manufacturing jobs, including those that locally produce all of the semiconductor grade silicon used in solar panels and electronics in the US, to China, a country where there is zero concern over the environment and the dirtiest of coal, with no emissions controls at all, is used to produce the energy needed.
                            Follow the money...
                            Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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