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  • #16
    Originally posted by 101combatvet View Post
    Since they burned Petraeus for this they shouldn't have a problem burning her. Watch her squirm out of it as usual.
    You can bet your life on that, the woman has a thicker coat of Teflon than her old man ever had!

    Trying hard to be the Man, that my Dog believes I am!

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    • #17
      "War is hell, but actual combat is a motherf#cker"
      - Col. David Hackworth

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      • #18
        Lots of things to be disturbed about in regards to this whole email thing: Hillary used an inappropriate email account for the types of information she was sending, which shows that she feels the law doesn't apply to her; she either didn't understand or was careless with the rules governing classified information; she lied and said she didn't send any classified information via this account; she still arrogantly acts as if this is some GOP conspiracy rather than admit that she didn't do things correctly.
        When Bill was president, he did things that would get most people fired: having an affair with an intern is pretty much forbidden in just about every corporate or government office in the country: even discussing things of a sexual nature is considered sexual harassment, let alone sleeping with a subordinate. He then got on TV and lied to our faces about it, and still walked away without a scratch politically. Something about the Clintons makes them immune to things that would end the career of most politicians.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Steve573 View Post
          Lots of things to be disturbed about in regards to this whole email thing: Hillary used an inappropriate email account for the types of information she was sending, which shows that she feels the law doesn't apply to her; she either didn't understand or was careless with the rules governing classified information; she lied and said she didn't send any classified information via this account; she still arrogantly acts as if this is some GOP conspiracy rather than admit that she didn't do things correctly.
          Hillary apparently used a private e-mail account to have control of the resulting information to keep it out of the public eye. That too is illegal. She full well knew exactly what she was doing and why.
          She knew it was illegal, but didn't give a rat's patoot about it and did it anyway. Now every time its brought up she sounds like some mob boss proclaiming her innocence instantly. The only she has any regrets about is getting caught.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
            Hillary apparently used a private e-mail account to have control of the resulting information to keep it out of the public eye. That too is illegal. She full well knew exactly what she was doing and why.
            She knew it was illegal, but didn't give a rat's patoot about it and did it anyway. Now every time its brought up she sounds like some mob boss proclaiming her innocence instantly. The only she has any regrets about is getting caught.
            Even worse, her and the Democrats are trying to make it seem like not only is she innocent of wrongdoing but she's the victim of a GOP witch hunt. It seems more and more that being critical of liberals means you're some kind of jerk, while being critical of conservatives means you care about people. At least that seems to be the way it's portrayed, regardless of whether there are real things to be critical of or not.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Steve573 View Post
              Even worse, her and the Democrats are trying to make it seem like not only is she innocent of wrongdoing but she's the victim of a GOP witch hunt. It seems more and more that being critical of liberals means you're some kind of jerk, while being critical of conservatives means you care about people. At least that seems to be the way it's portrayed, regardless of whether there are real things to be critical of or not.
              Such a smear has long been a staple of the Left. Nothing new there. If the Left can get in charge they will codify it into law and make it illegal to question their wisdom in any way shape or form.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                Such a smear has long been a staple of the Left. Nothing new there. If the Left can get in charge they will codify it into law and make it illegal to question their wisdom in any way shape or form.
                Remember Joe The Plumber being investigated for asking questions?

                http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/...e_plumber.html

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                  Such a smear has long been a staple of the Left. Nothing new there. If the Left can get in charge they will codify it into law and make it illegal to question their wisdom in any way shape or form.
                  Who is the "Left"? You say the "Left" this or the "Left" that. You blame the "Left" for basically everything. So define what you mean when you say the "Left".
                  First Counsul Maleketh of Jonov

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Delenda estRoma View Post
                    Who is the "Left"? You say the "Left" this or the "Left" that. You blame the "Left" for basically everything. So define what you mean when you say the "Left".
                    Okay.

                    Let's start with this:

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics

                    http://www.diffen.com/difference/Lef..._vs_Right_Wing

                    The fundamental differences between left-wing and right-wing ideologies center around the the rights of individuals vs. the power of the government.

                    On free speech:

                    http://www.aei.org/publication/the-l...n-free-speech/

                    Justice Stephen Breyer’s proverbially blistering dissent, in which the other three liberal justices joined, paints the First Amendment in an entirely different light, arguing that the Court’s ruling “eviscerates our Nation’s campaign finance laws.”

                    In Justice Breyer’s worldview, shared by many progressive jurists and academics, the government’s interest in restricting campaign contributions is nothing less than “an interest rooted in the Constitution and in the First Amendment itself.” Put differently, speech and its limits lie within a self-contained system of social and governmental action.

                    In other words, the freedom of political speech is instrumental: instead of constituting an expressive or associative right, it serves solely to influence the government. Free speech doesn’t mean the ability to join with like-minded citizens to voice one’s beliefs, but instead it’s socially productive only insofar as it obtains concrete policy outcomes.
                    Bottom line: The Left focuses on collective, government based solutions to problems. They diminish the role of the individual and put the group first. They will do so to the degree that they will ostracize or punish individuals for acting outside group norms or for opposing group thought.

                    That's a start.

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                    • #25
                      I like to think of myself as a liberal and I get tired of the constant attacks on an ideology that basically says nothing more than that traditional values are not necessarily the best way to move forward.

                      If every time a conservative was caught breaking the law and someone said well that is the nature of the right to believe they are above the law conservatives would be offended and rightfully so. Conservatives seem just as willing to overlook the crooks and cronies in the private sector as liberals are to excuse Hilliary.

                      There are good liberals and good conservatives and lumping them altogether is not only disingenuous but dangerous. The fact that both sides are overwhelmingly represented by idealogues is irrelevant.
                      We hunt the hunters

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                        Okay.

                        Let's start with this:

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics

                        http://www.diffen.com/difference/Lef..._vs_Right_Wing




                        On free speech:

                        http://www.aei.org/publication/the-l...n-free-speech/



                        Bottom line: The Left focuses on collective, government based solutions to problems. They diminish the role of the individual and put the group first. They will do so to the degree that they will ostracize or punish individuals for acting outside group norms or for opposing group thought.

                        That's a start.
                        So anyone who follows left wing politics in any way, shape, or form is the left? Because you have insulted, belittled, condemned, condescended, ridiculed, and moaned about them every day on any post that deals with politics and some that don't. You need to look at things logically and find who is to blame for each individual situation. Anytime something goes wrong you blame an entire group of people because you disagree with their politics. That's beyond illogical. Examine each situation to find the true culprit. Left, right, black, white, conservative, liberal, or whatever. Also, your continuous insults are simply childish. Making fun of Hillary, Obama, and other Democrats does not make your argument better. I hope you realize that. Insulting the huge number of people who lean to the left, quite voraciously at times, also gets old and annoying.
                        Last edited by Delenda estRoma; 28 Jul 15, 01:27.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
                          I like to think of myself as a liberal and I get tired of the constant attacks on an ideology that basically says nothing more than that traditional values are not necessarily the best way to move forward.

                          If every time a conservative was caught breaking the law and someone said well that is the nature of the right to believe they are above the law conservatives would be offended and rightfully so. Conservatives seem just as willing to overlook the crooks and cronies in the private sector as liberals are to excuse Hilliary.

                          There are good liberals and good conservatives and lumping them altogether is not only disingenuous but dangerous. The fact that both sides are overwhelmingly represented by idealogues is irrelevant.
                          Liberal is different from Progressive or Leftist. A traditional Liberal doesn't look to government as the best or only solution to a problem. The Left does.
                          There are good people on the Left but that doesn't change that their political positions are untenable.
                          Of course, the far Right's are just as untenable and unrealistic. But, that's a separate issue to the one at hand.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Delenda estRoma View Post
                            So anyone who follows left wing politics in any way, shape, or form is the left? Because you have insulted, belittled, condemned, condescended, ridiculed, and moaned about them every day on any post that deals with politics and some that don't. You need to look at things logically and find who is to blame for each individual situation. Anytime something goes wrong you blame an entire group of people because you disagree with their politics. That's beyond illogical. Examine each situation to find the true culprit. Left, right, black, white, conservative, liberal, or whatever. Also, your continuous insults are simply childish. Making fun of Hillary, Obama, and other Democrats does not make your argument better. I hope you realize that. Insulting the huge number of people who lean to the left, quite voraciously at times, also gets old and annoying. It's like the Nazi party yelling Jew at every single problem they had. I hate to use Nazi analogies, but this one fits.
                            Then don't use it because you are wrong. I am so vocal about the Left because of their track record. It is in a word, abysmal. The Left has created disaster after disaster in country after country, both social and economic. I would gladly examine any other part of the political spectrum in a way to pinpoint where the problem is. But, with the Progressive Left they as an entirety are the problem.
                            The Left wants big oppressive government. The Left wants collective rules, social norms, and everything else to be in lockstep with their ideas.

                            Why don't you show all of us the great economic and social successes of the Left instead of complaining about my tearing them down? Prove to everyone that the Left, the Progressives, can make things better rather than wreck things by their politics and policies.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                              Liberal is different from Progressive or Leftist. A traditional Liberal doesn't look to government as the best or only solution to a problem. The Left does.
                              There are good people on the Left but that doesn't change that their political positions are untenable.
                              Of course, the far Right's are just as untenable and unrealistic. But, that's a separate issue to the one at hand.
                              Another problem is the assumption that just because one criticizes one side, they automatically support the other.
                              ALL LIVES SPLATTER!

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                              BLACK MOTORCYCLES MATTER!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Skoblin View Post
                                From the Left? Why would someone from the left defend her? She is a corporate lackey like the rest of the Democratic and Republican parties. Now - no comment from the Liberals? That's a different question...
                                'She pretends to be, what she's not, you see', words from an old song.


                                Trying hard to be the Man, that my Dog believes I am!

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