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  • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Maybe if you did you would understand the word "terrorist".

    As it is, your position is both naive and and somewhat infantile.
    Sorry, but I prefer use the terms in their correct sense which is different from the demagogy you like so much.

    Check the links for sources and further evidence to disprove that particular conspiracy theory.
    In any of your links there is an examination of men in the picture and the actions of "Free Syrian Army" which can also be considered as terrorist.
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    • Originally posted by Emtos View Post
      Sorry, but I prefer use the terms in their correct sense which is different from the demagogy you like so much.
      No...you prefer to apologize for, and encourage, terrorism in all its many forms.

      Maybe you would like to try your luck with that approach in New York City.
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      • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
        No...you prefer to apologize for, and encourage, terrorism in all its many forms.

        Maybe you would like to try your luck with that approach in New York City.
        Coming from a Fox news adept it sounds even more funnier.
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        • Here's what I see as happening under this agreement:

          The Iranians get a huge pile of money, billions upon billions.

          The conventional arms embargo against Iran is lifted (last minute inclusion by Russia in particular).

          Inspections require almost a month's advance notice and Iran can object stalling these further by at least another month probably longer. That makes them nearly, if not entirely, useless.

          Iran will still have the means to make a bomb if they want one only in reduced quantity.

          So, what this potentially means is Iran using their new found cash can buy all sorts of the latest conventional arms from Russia and China to give them a good defense against a US / coalition attack should one occur. They now have the hard cash to pay for it too making China and Russia more than happy to sell this stuff to them.
          They will also have the means to build a nuclear bomb and have ballistic missiles for delivery.
          Since it will take them a few years to get the conventional defenses in place they can afford to slow their nuclear program, particularly if they are already close or there with a bomb.
          So, they bide their time for a few years, get a defense that would make attacking them very costly, then announce they also have a nuclear arsenal on ballistic missiles.

          It's a win all around for Iran!

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          • Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
            Here's what I see as happening under this agreement:

            The Iranians get a huge pile of money, billions upon billions.

            The conventional arms embargo against Iran is lifted (last minute inclusion by Russia in particular).

            Inspections require almost a month's advance notice and Iran can object stalling these further by at least another month probably longer. That makes them nearly, if not entirely, useless.

            Iran will still have the means to make a bomb if they want one only in reduced quantity.

            So, what this potentially means is Iran using their new found cash can buy all sorts of the latest conventional arms from Russia and China to give them a good defense against a US / coalition attack should one occur. They now have the hard cash to pay for it too making China and Russia more than happy to sell this stuff to them.
            They will also have the means to build a nuclear bomb and have ballistic missiles for delivery.
            Since it will take them a few years to get the conventional defenses in place they can afford to slow their nuclear program, particularly if they are already close or there with a bomb.
            So, they bide their time for a few years, get a defense that would make attacking them very costly, then announce they also have a nuclear arsenal on ballistic missiles.

            It's a win all around for Iran!


            Agreed. I'm still waiting to hear how this deal benefits us or our allies.
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            • Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post
              Agreed. I'm still waiting to hear how this deal benefits us or our allies.
              It preserves Maobama's legacy as the worst president in the history of "life, the Universe and everything"... isn't that benefit enough?
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              • Behaving like a Dictator, Obama bypasses Congress and goes to the radical controlled UN.
                http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...ting-lawmakers

                How much more damage will he do to this country before enough members of the House and Senate gets the balls to impeach him?
                http://thehill.com/regulation/248411...ons-from-obama
                Iran's response to the treaty.
                http://freebeacon.com/national-secur...-upon-america/
                taking the guns away from seniors.
                http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...m-owning-guns/

                A secret race database.

                Unprecedented collection of sensitive data on Americans...
                Prying into most personal info at most local levels...
                All for purpose of 'racial and economic justice'...


                http://nypost.com/2015/07/18/obama-h...race-database/
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                “Something irrelevant in your life just happened and now we are going to blow it all out of proportion for days to keep you distracted from what's really going on.”

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