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  • #16
    2.5 years? Idiotic in my opinion. If we continue to label people who like public sex sex offenders, we won't be able to identify the true threat. These people do NOT deserve 2.5 years in prison. I vehemently disagree with this decision on every level.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
      Now that the concept of common sense no longer applies to the inJustice System, it is the most useful weapon that Evil can possible have at their disposal.
      You think that is stupid.....

      I have a friend that bought some juvenile red-ear slider turtles in Mexico and got caught with them at the boarder.

      US Customs calls US Fish and Wildlife. US Fish and Wildlife calls US Health which has a ban on these turtles that has a shell carapace under 4'' long due to some madman's idea that a turtle with a shell of less than 4' can fit into a child's mouth. The carapace is the top of the shell. The Health Dept guys measured the bottom of the shells which is always shorter that the top and came in short instead of being just over the minimum.

      Turtles confiscated by Fish and Wildlife and charges were brought by both Customs and F&W. Both of those agencies has been brought under the US Homeland Security umbrella since 9/11.

      End results were a hefty fine...doing community service working for US Department of Forestry...and getting placed on the NO FLY LIST.

      All that for turtles that you can buy in a seafood market because as a food in can be sold under four inches although just about everyone shopping at a food market is usually looking for larger ones for food. You can find the really small ones at flea markets and lots of people have them. Most of us had one at some time when we were kids.

      It is insane how government and LEO agencies sometimes work.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by holly6 View Post
        DAMN IT HOLLY, READ THE WHOLE THREAD!!

        This idiot was on a public beach in front of multiple individuals? Mr. AC/DC changes current.
        If I'd been walking along a Pacific Public Beach with my Grandkids, and the guy reacted the way it was described in the OP, the lady might have loved me, because if I had a belt with a heavy buckle, I'd beat his behind bloody.
        Still not sure about the life time conviction as a sexual predator, but the Dude definitely needed to be put to some legal pain.
        Now we disagree. You're going to physically assault someone for having sex? Yes, it is out of line for him to do it in public, but you should go to jail for far longer than he does if you do what you claim you would like. I am really disappointed in you.
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        • #19
          Reminds me of a story a few years back where a man got some illegal porn forcibly DLed by a popup on an otherwise safe site. He deleted them immediately and never went back. Then years later the Feds apparently arrested him for it and tried to put him in for years as a sex offender. IIRC he pleaded his case and was let out after several months, but still.

          I agree that real sex offenders need to be punished severely, but our system for the criteria seems to be so damned paranoid. Whether an idiotic mistake like this couple or a complete accident like the guy I mentioned, the law doesn't seem to care. Guilty until proven innocent. The label of sex offender is a serious, life-ruining thing, and definitely legitimate sex offenders deserve it and much worse. However it's like some kind of scare campaign targeting anyone and everyone the gov even remotely perceives as breaking the law.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by holly6 View Post
            DAMN IT HOLLY, READ THE WHOLE THREAD!!

            This idiot was on a public beach in front of multiple individuals? Mr. AC/DC changes current.
            If I'd been walking along a Pacific Public Beach with my Grandkids, and the guy reacted the way it was described in the OP, the lady might have loved me, because if I had a belt with a heavy buckle, I'd beat his behind bloody.
            Still not sure about the life time conviction as a sexual predator, but the Dude definitely needed to be put to some legal pain.
            Absolutely he committed a crime and by all accounts is a career criminal so no tears for him.

            I do think the whole sex thing is a bit odd though. Other than it is offensive to see people copulating in public does it really do that much harm to children? It's not like closing a door really keeps the secret away from kids. It's certainly a lot easy to explain than "rape culture" that they may hear on the evening news.

            To me it seems more like an opportunity to explain bad manners and responsibility to kids than something that will scar them for life. I have seen studies that show kids that have access to alcohol in their homes are much less likely to abuse it as teenagers. Hiding sexuality also may make kids more vulnerable to pedophiles. We may be going overboard on protecting children from sex just as there is evidence that keeping them in too clean an environment may lead to susceptibility to auto immune disease.

            The number of kids abused by priest certainly doesn't speak well of the efficacy of a puritanical culture of secrecy.

            Besides it is hypocritical to say it's ok to take your kids to Munich Germany and happen to run into this painting. Try explaining to a kid why nudity is ok in a painting but not on a beach let alone a painting depicting rape.



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            • #21
              Originally posted by Delenda estRoma View Post
              Now we disagree. You're going to physically assault someone for having sex? Yes, it is out of line for him to do it in public, but you should go to jail for far longer than he does if you do what you claim you would like. I am really disappointed in you.
              Read it in context: If I'm walking down an open beach with my grandchildren and come upon this situation, others have asked them to stop and they refuse. The reply was metaphorical, but don't despair. If you have that approach to my posts I will give you many more reasons to disappoint you.
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              • #22
                You have stated you would physically assault someone with a weapon because of public sex. Yes he needs punished, but we don't need you to do it.
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                • #23
                  This makes me wonder what happens on Nude beaches...

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Pruitt View Post
                    This makes me wonder what happens on Nude beaches...

                    Pruitt
                    Get with the times you old lizard. They are "Clothing Optional" facilities.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Pruitt View Post
                      This makes me wonder what happens on Nude beaches...

                      Pruitt
                      One would assume kids are permanently crippled emotionally.

                      I could be wrong I don't know, I'm so old my mother got her personal hygiene items in a carefully wrapped brown package. Didn't stop me from knowing what was in the box but I suppose it was kind of civilized in it's own way.
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                      • #26
                        From here to Eternity ;



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                        • #27
                          A fine & a criminal record? Sure. Over 2 years in jail & sex offenders register? Total bullshit. Apart rom ruining the lives of two people who are fools at worst and costing the taxpayer a stupid amount of money for no gain, it is also going to waste the time of some cop who has to monitor these two now that they are on the sex offenders register. Just hope that they don't miss someone genuinely dangerous as a result.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by BF69 View Post
                            A fine & a criminal record? Sure. Over 2 years in jail & sex offenders register? Total bullshit. Apart rom ruining the lives of two people who are fools at worst and costing the taxpayer a stupid amount of money for no gain, it is also going to waste the time of some cop who has to monitor these two now that they are on the sex offenders register. Just hope that they don't miss someone genuinely dangerous as a result.
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                            • #29
                              A ridiculous sentence, and the woman gets time served seems blatantly unfair - although it seems he acted aggressively to someone asking him to stop which increased the punishment. Depending upon what being confrontational means some time might have been in order. If that is all there is to it what is the appeal process?

                              The child's mother asked Caballero and the woman to stop, but he became confrontational, something the judge said factored into the sentence.
                              http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-10370359.html

                              I do find it amusing that the same posters who usually work themselves into a moral frenzy over open displays of sexuality and bodies at things like gay pride events are surprisingly not that bothered.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
                                The definition of the word no longer has even the slightest bearing on the actual doctrine of the Left.

                                The Liberal establishment is humorless, intolerant, self-absorbed and worst of all.... can't take any other point of view but their own seriously.
                                A historical dead-end, as always.

                                2.5 years because some kid saw you?
                                Yeah, good ol' zero-tolerance, another gift from the Left.

                                So when will the Left ban Porn?
                                This happened in Florida, a STATE law. Please explain how liberals had ANYTHING to do with it? FL has not a a 'liberal' Dem government in decades..... Please
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                                Of cabbages—and kings—
                                And why the sea is boiling hot—
                                And whether pigs have wings.”
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