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  • #16
    Originally posted by Salinator View Post
    I tried weed once. Those damn things took over my Zen Garden.
    It's not some 16 year old pothead that's getting weed legalized.


    Probably the CEO....we gotta get these motherers stoned to believe my bull
    Last edited by Crash; 04 Jul 15, 23:52.
    #occupyarmchairgeneral.
    Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes to be true. Demosthenes.
    Against logic there is no armor like ignorance. Laurence J. Peter

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    • #17
      I find it odd that the dimwits donít seem to realize that oil is part of nature. It does come from the ground so to complain that it is somehow an unnatural substance shows just how low their IQ really is.
      Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedy. -- Ernest Benn

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Tsar View Post
        I find it odd that the dimwits donít seem to realize that oil is part of nature. It does come from the ground so to complain that it is somehow an unnatural substance shows just how low their IQ really is.
        Obviously the earth creates oil...where does the earth burn oil?

        Do you also believe that the Mother Earth says you have to propose with a diamond?
        #occupyarmchairgeneral.
        Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes to be true. Demosthenes.
        Against logic there is no armor like ignorance. Laurence J. Peter

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Tsar View Post
          I find it odd that the dimwits donít seem to realize that oil is part of nature. It does come from the ground so to complain that it is somehow an unnatural substance shows just how low their IQ really is.
          Ebola is part of nature too.
          We hunt the hunters

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          • #20
            Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
            Ebola is part of nature too.
            And your point is what? That they are hypocrites for wanting to save some parts of nature but destroy others? Itís alright I already know that they are hypocrites.
            Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedy. -- Ernest Benn

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Tsar View Post
              And your point is what? That they are hypocrites for wanting to save some parts of nature but destroy others? Itís alright I already know that they are hypocrites.
              My point is there is a happy medium where we don't let nature kill us and we don't kill her.
              We hunt the hunters

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              • #22
                Hell yeah, screw people who don't want to mercilessly rip apart and drill some of the last wild and beautiful places left on Earth! In the meantime let's napalm Antarctica and slash-n'-burn the Amazon, and level the Himalayas too. Think of all the land for industry and profit we'd have if we eradicated nature! Who cares if big oil companies bribe the government and spill oil all the time, killing off wildlife and permanently ruining the lives of people profiting off of the local water supply or the sea? Ebola's an occurrence of nature, so therefore let's wipe out every tree and blade of grass that exists on this planet.






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                • #23
                  Since when was Obama president of the Artic?
                  you think you a real "bleep" solders you "bleep" plastic solders don't wory i will make you in to real "bleep" solders!! "bleep" plastic solders

                  CPO Mzinyati

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Handsome Jack View Post
                    Hell yeah, screw people who don't want to mercilessly rip apart and drill some of the last wild and beautiful places left on Earth! In the meantime let's napalm Antarctica and slash-n'-burn the Amazon, and level the Himalayas too. Think of all the land for industry and profit we'd have if we eradicated nature! Who cares if big oil companies bribe the government and spill oil all the time, killing off wildlife and permanently ruining the lives of people profiting off of the local water supply or the sea? Ebola's an occurrence of nature, so therefore let's wipe out every tree and blade of grass that exists on this planet.






                    Nature will in due course eradicate us it's a question of the timing and how much fun we have getting there
                    We hunt the hunters

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by andrewza View Post
                      Since when was Obama president of the Artic?


                      Since he became President. Not all of it, no body said that, you just read something into it.
                      "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                      Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                      youíre entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Tsar View Post
                        I find it odd that the dimwits donít seem to realize that oil is part of nature. It does come from the ground so to complain that it is somehow an unnatural substance shows just how low their IQ really is.
                        The "funny" thing is that the cleanup of the Exxon Valdez oil spill probably caused more environmental harm than the spill itself...
                        "It's important to remember that oil is a biological product and can be degraded by microbes, both on and beneath the surface of the water," Hazen said. "Some of the detergents that are typically used to clean up spill sites are more toxic than the oil itself, in which case it would be better to leave the site alone and allow microbes to do what they do best."

                        http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/...-oil-disaster/

                        Nature can handle oil... Nature isn't so good at handling detergents and steam cleaning. People tend to lose sight of the fact that "clean" is not natural.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
                          Nature will in due course eradicate us it's a question of the timing and how much fun we have getting there
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                          • #28
                            Shell has invested $6 billion into its exploration program in the Chukchi Sea. The leased the acreage fromantic the Federal Government for $2 billion. The leases include the contractual rights to exploit the mineral resources under those leases. Every year since 2010, Shell has made a good faith effort to comply with all of the regulatory requirements and every year the Maobama Maladministration has played regulatory "Shell games."

                            This is just one more facet in Maobama's effort to force a premature shutdown of the TAPS.
                            Obamaís Trans-Alaska Oil Assault
                            Heís slowly starving the current pipeline so it will have to shut down.


                            Jan. 26, 2015 7:49 p.m. ET

                            Washingtonís energy debate has been focused on President Obama ís endless opposition to the Keystone XL pipeline, but maybe that was only a warm-up. His new fossil fuel shutdown target is Alaska.

                            President Obama announced Sunday that heíll use his executive authority to designate 12 million acres in Alaskaís Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) as wilderness, walling it off from resource development. This abrogates a 1980 deal in which Congress specifically set aside some of this acreage for future oil and gas exploration. Itís also a slap at the new Republican Congress, where Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski has been corralling bipartisan support for more Arctic drilling.

                            [...]

                            The ANWR blockade also seems to be part of a larger strategy to starve the existing Trans-Alaska pipeline, the 800-mile system that carries oil south from state lands in Prudhoe Bay.

                            [...]

                            The political prize here is the death of the Alaska oil pipeline, which in its heyday pushed some 2.2 million barrels of oil south a day, but has seen volume slow to 500,000 barrels a day as the stateís existing oil fields decline. The drop in oil prices has increased financial pressure on Arctic drillers, and any lower flow threatens the viability of the pipeline.

                            This is what environmentalists want because they know that if the pipeline shuts down, it must by law be dismantled. Since the pipeline is the only way to get large quantities of Alaskan oil south, shutting it down means closing to exploration one of the worldís greatest repositories of hydrocarbons.


                            http://www.wsj.com/articles/obamas-t...ult-1422319740

                            ē The Trans Alaska Pipeline Systemís (TAPS) minimum flow rate of about 300,000 barrels of oil per day will be reached in 2025, absent new developments or reserves growth beyond the forecasted technically remaining reserves. An Alaska gas pipeline and gas sales from the Point Thomson field and the associated oil and condensate would provide another boost to oil production and extend the life of TAPS for about one year to 2026. A shut down of TAPS would potentially strand about 1 billion barrels of oil reserves from the fields analyzed.

                            Page ix

                            ē For the complete study interval from 2005 to 2050, the forecasts of economically recoverable oil and gas additions, including reserves growth in known fields, is 35 to 36 billion barrels of oil and 137 trillion cubic feet of gas. These optimistic estimates assume continued high oil and gas prices, stable fiscal policies, and all areas open for exploration and development. For this optimistic scenario, the productive life of the Alaska North Slope would be extended well beyond 2050 and could potentially result in the need to refurbish TAPS and add capacity to the gas pipeline.

                            ē The forecasts become increasingly pessimistic if the assumptions are not met as illustrated by the following scenarios.
                            1. If the ANWR 1002 area is removed from consideration, the estimated economically recoverable oil is 29 to 30 billion barrels of oil and 135 trillion cubic feet of gas.

                            2. Removal of ANWR 1002 and the Chukchi Sea OCS results in a further reduction to 19 to 20 billion barrels of oil and 85 trillion cubic feet of gas.

                            3. Removal of ANWR 1002, Chukchi Sea OCS, and the Beaufort Sea OCS results in a reduction to 15 to 16 billion barrels of oil and 65 trillion cubic feet of gas.

                            4. Scenario 3 and no gas pipeline reduces the estimate to 9 to 10 billion barrels of oil (any gas discovered will likely remain stranded).

                            Some combination of these hypothetical scenarios is more likely to occur than the optimistic estimates.

                            Page viii

                            https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/vi...tional-energy-

                            Unchecked, Maobama's latest malfeasance will cause 1, 2 and 3 to occur. Nearly half of the undiscovered resource potential in the USA lies beneath lands and waters affected by this perfidious action.



                            TAPS operating lifetime is entirely dependent on an economic flow of oil. It started flowing in 1977 and is expected to remain in operation until the mid-21st century if ANWR and the OCS are fully opened to drilling.

                            The rate of oil moved through the pipeline has nothing to do with oil prices. It has been entirely dependent on the performance of Prudhoe Bay and other North Slope fields. Production peaked in 1988 and has steadily declined since then, irrespective of prices.

                            http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/Lea...s=MANFPAK2&f=M

                            If ANWR and the other areas are not opened soon, TAPS will reach its economic limit in about 10 years. If all of those areas are opened up, it will remain in operation until at least 2050.

                            The economic flow rate is not dictated by prices either. Below about 300,000 bopd, the pipeline will not flow in winter, without massive modifications, due to hydrates and parafins.
                            Last edited by The Doctor; 05 Jul 15, 10:43.
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                            • #29
                              Jane Fonda is about as relevant as the Kardashians
                              Don't waste your time always searching for those wasted years...

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                              • #30
                                Originally Posted by Crash
                                Statistical fact: Far more of our Rightie forum members utter far more drivel daily here than Jane Fonda.
                                Indeed you do.
                                Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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