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  • #16
    It's moral insanity.

    Mark this day- June 26, 2015

    as the beginning of the end.

    A very sad day.
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    "Any story sounds true until someone tells the other side and sets the record straight." -Proverbs 18:17

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    • #17
      Originally posted by BorderRuffian View Post
      It's moral insanity.

      Mark this day- June 26, 2015

      as the beginning of the end.

      A very sad day.
      Its always the beginning of the end for some sad case. Guess today its you.
      Human beings are the only creatures on Earth that claim a god and the only living thing that behaves like it hasn't got one - Hunter S. Thompson

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      • #18
        Originally posted by BorderRuffian View Post
        It's moral insanity.

        Mark this day- June 26, 2015

        as the beginning of the end.

        A very sad day.
        "Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it"
        G.B Shaw

        "They promised us homes fit for heroes, they give us heroes fit for homes."
        Grandad, Only Fools and Horses

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        • #19
          Originally posted by BorderRuffian View Post
          It's moral insanity.

          Mark this day- June 26, 2015

          as the beginning of the end.

          A very sad day.
          Yes, this is the end of our civilization.... yup, sure is.....
          “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
          “To talk of many things:
          Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
          Of cabbages—and kings—
          And why the sea is boiling hot—
          And whether pigs have wings.”
          ― Lewis Carroll

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          • #20
            Supreme Court extends gay marriage nationwide

            WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court declared Friday that same-sex couples have a right to marry anywhere in the United States, a historic culmination of two decades of litigation over gay marriage and gay rights generally.

            Gay and lesbian couples already could marry in 36 states and the District of Columbia. The court's 5-4 ruling means the remaining 14 states, in the South and Midwest, will have to stop enforcing their bans on same-sex marriage.
            AP - Full Article

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            • #21
              Originally posted by BorderRuffian View Post
              It's moral insanity.

              Mark this day- June 26, 2015

              as the beginning of the end.

              A very sad day.

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              • #22
                Decadence .Guess what the next step will be :the right of animals to marry and to vote .

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                • #23
                  I'm most interested in seeing just how big effect this has on the GOP Race for the nomination. Will it call up a wave of social conservatism in the primaries that matter?

                  Some early GOP candidate reaction:

                  http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...imperial-court

                  Gov Jindal, war in religion:

                  Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, who has made religious liberty a major theme of his bid for the Republican presidential nomination, said the decision will “pave the way for an all out assault against the religious freedom rights of Christians who disagree with this decision.”
                  Mike Huckabee:

                  "The Supreme Court has spoken with a very divided voice on something only the Supreme Being can do — redefine marriage,” Huckabee said. “We must resist and reject judicial tyranny, not retreat.”

                  “The only outcome worse than this flawed, failed decision would be for the President and Congress, two co-equal branches of government, to surrender in the face of this out-of-control act of unconstitutional, judicial tyranny,” Huckabee said. "The Supreme Court can no more repeal the laws of nature and nature's God on marriage than it can the laws of gravity.”
                  Ms Fiorina: Mostly States rights, little religious twist.

                  “I do not agree that the Court can or should redefine marriage,” Fiorina said. “I believe that responsibility should have remained with states and voters where this conversation has continued in churches, town halls and living rooms around the country. Moving forward, however, all of our effort should be focused on protecting the religious liberties and freedom of conscience for those Americans that profoundly disagree with today's decision.”
                  Mr Santorum: Persecution etc.

                  “Leaders don't accept bad decisions that they believe harm the country, they have the courage of their convictions and lead the country down the better path,” Santorum said. “As president… I will stand for the preservation of religious liberty and conscience, to believe what you are called to believe free from persecution. And I will ensure that the people will have a voice in decisions that impact the rock upon which our civilization is built.”
                  Mr Bush plays it the straightest:

                  “Guided by my faith, I believe in traditional marriage,” Bush said. “I believe the Supreme Court should have allowed the states to make this decision.”

                  However, he added that he also believes “we should love our neighbor and respect others, including those making lifetime commitments.”
                  “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
                  “To talk of many things:
                  Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
                  Of cabbages—and kings—
                  And why the sea is boiling hot—
                  And whether pigs have wings.”
                  ― Lewis Carroll

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                  • #24
                    More GOP candidate reaction:

                    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/0...6.html?hp=l2_4

                    Gov Walker, offers a solution that will never happen but makes voters think he'll do something.

                    Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker said “the only alternative left for the American people is to support an amendment to the U.S. Constitution to reaffirm the ability of the states to continue to define marriage.”
                    Sen. Graham, closer to Mr Bush:

                    South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham disagreed with that, saying he would respect the court’s decision and that instead of pursuing “a divisive effort” to overturn the ruling with Congress “that would be doomed to fail,” he would commit himself to “ensuring the protection of religious liberties of all Americans.”
                    “While we have differences, it is time for us to move forward together respectfully and as one people,” he said in a statement.
                    Mr Perry, Presidents picks for the SC are important:

                    Former Texas Gov. Rick Perry said that America’s founding fathers “did not intend for the judicial branch to legislate from the bench.”
                    As president, Perry said in a statement, he would “appoint strict Constitutional conservatives who will apply the law as written.”
                    Mr Carson, middle ground with a little religious persecution flavor:

                    Ben Carson said that while he did not agree with the decision, it is “now the law of the land,” calling on Congress to protect religious beliefs.
                    “I call on Congress to make sure deeply held religious views are respected and protected. The government must never force Christians to violate their religious beliefs,” he said in a statement. “I support same sex civil unions but to me, and millions like me, marriage is a religious service not a government form.” ‘
                    Sen. Rubio:

                    Florida Sen. Marco Rubio wrote, “While I disagree with this decision, we live in a republic and must abide by the law. As we look ahead, it must be a priority of the next president to nominate judges and justices committed to applying the Constitution as written and originally understood.”
                    Anyone have thoughts on what this will do/add to the nomination fight?
                    “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
                    “To talk of many things:
                    Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
                    Of cabbages—and kings—
                    And why the sea is boiling hot—
                    And whether pigs have wings.”
                    ― Lewis Carroll

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
                      Yes, this is the end of our civilization.... yup, sure is.....
                      Once religious institutions, businesses, and individuals are forced to participate in and banned from criticizing Gay Marriages, your First Amendment rights will be gone for good.
                      “Breaking News,”

                      “Something irrelevant in your life just happened and now we are going to blow it all out of proportion for days to keep you distracted from what's really going on.”

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                      • #26
                        This could benefit military members more than anyone........ Understand that in the military being married gets you more pay, a housing allowance etc. that you don't get if you are single..... so any two military members of the same sex can now marry purely for this financial benefit, don't even have to live together, and divorce when they are no longer in the service (or whenever one of them meets someone else they'd rather marry).

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
                          The Miracle Amendment strikes again...
                          The Fourteenth Amendment requires a State to license a marriage between two people of the same sex and to recognize a marriage between two people of the same sex when their marriage was lawfully licensed and performed out-of-State...

                          Why doesn't the Miracle Amendment requires a State to license a marriage between any number of people of whatever sex and to recognize a marriage between whatever permutations when their marriage was lawfully licensed and performed out-of-State?

                          The ruling lacks any form of logic and elevates the Miracle Amendment to new heights of absurdity... SOP for most of the past 40 years.
                          Those will be next.... don't forget Doc #loveislove



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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
                            More GOP candidate reaction:

                            http://www.politico.com/story/2015/0...6.html?hp=l2_4

                            Gov Walker, offers a solution that will never happen but makes voters think he'll do something.
                            The first method not likely but the second is-

                            [#1] The Constitution provides that an amendment may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a [#2] constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the State legislatures.

                            But then 3/4 (38) of the states would be needed for approval.

                            That's possible. There were several Lib states that voted for "traditional" (real) marriage.
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                            "Any story sounds true until someone tells the other side and sets the record straight." -Proverbs 18:17

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by SRV Ron View Post
                              Once religious institutions, businesses, and individuals are forced to participate in and banned from criticizing Gay Marriages, your First Amendment rights will be gone for good.
                              More over excitement. Nothing of the sort will happen for those I highlighted. As to business this ruling has no effect on public accommodation laws either so that is a non starter also.

                              The ruling even specifically mentions that fact, of course I'm surprised you missed that when you read the ruling... you did actually READ the opinion before you came here to discuss?
                              “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
                              “To talk of many things:
                              Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
                              Of cabbages—and kings—
                              And why the sea is boiling hot—
                              And whether pigs have wings.”
                              ― Lewis Carroll

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by BorderRuffian View Post
                                The first method not likely but the second is-

                                [#1] The Constitution provides that an amendment may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a [#2] constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the State legislatures.

                                But then 3/4 (38) of the states would be needed for approval.

                                That's possible. There were several Lib states that voted for "traditional" (real) marriage.
                                Not even a remote chance. Please point me to where the GOP, which controls congress, has even proposed any such amendment, besides lone calls for it by individual Rep/Sen that then never produce such a bill.
                                “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
                                “To talk of many things:
                                Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
                                Of cabbages—and kings—
                                And why the sea is boiling hot—
                                And whether pigs have wings.”
                                ― Lewis Carroll

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