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  • #76
    As I age I'm leaning more and more toward a libertarian perspective. My german ancestry fights it but experience has shown me the error of rigorous regulation.

    Perhaps the best example in my life of the efficiency of unregulated human behavior is the roundabout. After 30 years of experience tweaking signals to get the maximum traffic efficiency it was evident that in many cases just letting people control themselves was more efficient and much safer.

    I think slick may be on to something we he suggests that we regulate the criminality of corporations not their day to day operations. The only way to do that is to make individuals responsible or as he said giving corporations personhood.

    In the establishment of personal liability I do think that the principal of minimalism again comes into play as harsh penalties are likely to prove counter productive. No amount of government coercion is going to make people behave morally as morality is inherently a property of free individuals.

    Libertarianism itself however is seen as immoral by liberals who want to use force to assure that societies obligations to the less fortunate are fulfilled. As I have argued before it is paradoxical that coercion itself removes the moral agency necessary for a moral society to exist.

    The question is how do we create a society where people freely consent to their obligations?
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    • #77
      By the way one of the better discussions of late
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      • #78
        Originally posted by slick_miester View Post
        ^ Then clean toilets. What do I care? "4,000 words per day is too hard! " Every halfwit fresh out of journalism school scribing for the Times is doing that. It's not exactly a challenge. I can fart 4,000 words. Why can't you?
        Heh, this is SEO text, not something that you just fart out(although some SEO text you can fart out and earn nothing). Nothing to do with fiction, which you can crank out 10 000 words a day if you so wish(and then edit 99% of that garbage away).

        But since you are so sure I challenge you to fart out 4000 quality words a day for the next month. Everyone else cocky enough can join in as well, though we need to decide on the subject.

        And on the other hand, 100 000-200 000 words is the equivalent of a book. Saying you can do that with quality, is saying that you could in a year write the entirety of what Proust completed as his work of life. And that man spent his life in the bed writing. Most people wouldn't even be able to read his book in a year(or even try like myself).

        But the discussion was about freelancing and how it is a viable option. At least when it comes to writing it is so only in countries like India, Indonesia, etc. where the pennies count for something. Most western people who do this stuff tend to live in cheap countries like that.
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        • #79
          ^ Try it for yourself. https://www.arielinvestments.com/pro...s-and-reports/
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          • #80
            Originally posted by slick_miester View Post
            I wasn't the one making claims, and I was talking about iGaming if you recall. It's not financial writing, it's SEO writing.
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            • #81
              "Self-employed" or "freelancers" or "consultant" all sound so much better than unemployed or part-time.

              On paper most people in my peer group are never "unemployed" anymore even when they have little or no income.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Karri View Post
                I wasn't the one making claims, and I was talking about iGaming if you recall. It's not financial writing, it's SEO writing.
                And I wasn't talking about a high school history text, but a dense financial and legal instrument.
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                • #83
                  Originally posted by slick_miester View Post
                  And I wasn't talking about a high school history text, but a dense financial and legal instrument.
                  Good for you. But when you are commenting on something I write please comment on what I write and don't pull subjects out of your magic hat and then refer to your own thoughts as main.

                  I guess we can safely say that your original comment was misplaced, unless you really want to spit out those 4k words that apparently come with ease? Or anyone else who argued otherwise? It's quite easy to prove...you just need to write.

                  Not to mention that you said 25-30k a week is average... that makes about 4k words a day, assuming writing 7 days a week. So on that front you kinda shoot yourself in the leg as well. Out of curiosity though, how much were you paid for these 30k words a week?

                  The few files I looked over on that link you gave me seemed quite the same, pretty much template text with changing figures.
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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Karri View Post
                    Good for you. But when you are commenting on something I write please comment on what I write and don't pull subjects out of your magic hat and then refer to your own thoughts as main.

                    I guess we can safely say that your original comment was misplaced, unless you really want to spit out those 4k words that apparently come with ease? Or anyone else who argued otherwise? It's quite easy to prove...you just need to write.
                    Are you not trained in that field, educated, experienced? If it's too hard for you, shouldn't you be looking elsewhere, for employment more fitting your skill set and your work ethic?

                    Originally posted by Karri View Post
                    Not to mention that you said 25-30k a week is average... that makes about 4k words a day, assuming writing 7 days a week. So on that front you kinda shoot yourself in the leg as well. Out of curiosity though, how much were you paid for these 30k words a week?
                    No wonder you can't write: you can't read either.

                    Originally posted by slick_miester View Post
                    You know how it is: for some people, the mere act of breathing is overwhelmingly effort-intensive, and deserving of a special reward.

                    When I was a youngster and just staring out on Wall Street, between client correspondence and prospectii and financial statement reviews, 25 to 35,000 words per week was average -- and I had to learn the legal verbiage along the way.
                    - emphasis mine

                    Let's see how your math is: how many times does 7 gazinta 35,000?
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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by slick_miester View Post
                      Are you not trained in that field, educated, experienced? If it's too hard for you, shouldn't you be looking elsewhere, for employment more fitting your skill set and your work ethic?
                      Trained, educated and experienced in what field? Again, I specifically mentioned iGaming, not financial/legal texts. You are the one who mentioned that it's average to write 30k words a week of financial/legal text, and then somehow drew the comparison that it's easy to write 4000 words of SEO text a day(or fart out). Please specify which you are talking about now.

                      Or are you arguing that since you are educated in one field it makes you an expert in another? Or that if you could write 50 000 words of furry porn a day then anyone can write 50 000 words of any kind of text a day?

                      If we talk about what I originally mentioned then yes, I've received training in that field, I am educated, and experienced. When it comes to SEO that is of course self-educated. It's not too hard for me by any means. The truth is that the pay simply isn't worth it when you do it as a freelancer. Which is quite clear from the first post id you'd have the skill set required to understand basic English.

                      Probably I would make more money scrubbing toilets to be honest(and way more by just working a permanent contract in my fields of expertise), and that is the major issue I am raising here...something you should understand when talking of freelancing as the great future of mankind.


                      Let's see how your math is: how many times does 7 gazinta 35,000?
                      Let's see; with a quick calculation about as many times as I need to ask you to prove your words until you finally admit you can't. Give me those 4k words Slick(maybe it's too hard for you?), or eat your hat. Or complain about me making one mistake with one number, your choice really.

                      Or maybe, you know, count how many times 7 goes into 25 000, then compare how many times 7 goes into 35 000 and then figure out if the average of that is about 4000.

                      Have you ever done freelancing btw? Do you have any experience of what you are arguing about? Also do tell me what you got for writing those 25-35k words a week. What was your pay and was it worth it?
                      Last edited by Karri; 07 Jul 15, 15:25.
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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by slick_miester View Post
                        He has repeatedly corrected you and you continue to address things that Karri never mentioned. If you are just going to berate him stop posting. Or perhaps you could read his posts and respond intelligently instead of with such belligerence.
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                        • #87
                          I did make one mistake there, as I was thinking about writing in English whereas most of my writing experience in that field comes(seo, content writing) from writing in Finnish. It's a bit more difficult as we don't have the "a, an, and the" to fill in the numbers. Would be interesting to compare average word lengths as well.
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