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    ALBANY, Ga. (AP) — A Georgia woman spent nearly three days in jail without bond before prosecutors decided police had wrongly charged her with murder after being told she had used pills ordered online to terminate her pregnancy.

    Kenlissia Jones, 23, has been freed and no longer faces a malice murder charge. But her legal case isn't over. District Attorney Greg Edwards told reporters Wednesday that he still plans to pursue a misdemeanor charge against Jones for possessing a dangerous drug.
    AP - Full Article

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    But not pursuing those who sold those pills openly on line?

    Strange system of "justice" we have.
    Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      But not pursuing those who sold those pills openly on line?

      Strange system of "justice" we have.
      To paraphrase the NRA: "Pills don't kill people, people kill people."

      The drug she used is perfectly legal.

      Cytotec is a brand name for misoprostol, a prescription drug used in combination with mifepristone to induce nonsurgical abortions. Used as recommended, mifepristone kills the fetus, and then misoprostol induces the labor that expels it. The pills are sold with prescriptions in the U.S. but available over the counter and online in many countries.

      In many cases, women are using misoprostol alone — partly because it is more easily obtained, because it has long been approved as a drug that prevents and heals ulcers.

      Dr. Beverly Winikoff, president of the women's health research organization Gynuity Health Projects, said misoprostol has been used in more than 2.5 million abortions in the U.S. and in hundreds of millions of abortions overseas in European countries as well as nations such as India and China.

      "I would say it's a very safe drug," said Winikoff, who said its more common side effects include chills, fever and sometimes cramping. "The reason some people think it's unsafe is because it can cause abortion, which people who are anti-abortion don't like."
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Jonathanrex1 View Post
        To paraphrase the NRA: "Pills don't kill people, people kill people."
        Why pull the NRA into this?
        "I don't discuss sitting presidents," Mattis tells NPR in an interview. "I believe that you owe a period of quiet."

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Jonathanrex1 View Post
          To paraphrase the NRA: "Pills don't kill people, people kill people."

          The drug she used is perfectly legal.
          Then the charges cannot be sustained. But my question remains unanswered, and points to a major shortcoming in law enforcement, perhaps better illustrated by the internet porn business: if you go to internet porn sites, openly available by the thousands, you might end up being prosecuted for something, but no one ever seems to go after the posters who provide it.

          Either it's illegal or it isn't - it can't be both.

          In this case, to sustain the charge, the DA also has to go after the seller of the drugs over the internet.
          Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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          • #6
            The drug in question, is it available "over-the-counter," or only by physician's prescription?
            I was married for two ******* years! Hell would be like Club Med! - Sam Kinison

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            • #7
              Where are the Feminist on this one? After all, according to Roe VS Wade, all abortions are legal regardless of the method in use right up to the gruesome partial birth infanticide. The exception, if it is caused by injury such as an assault or auto accident. Then, it is the person responsible for the assault or accident that is going to jail, not the mother to be.
              “Breaking News,”

              “Something irrelevant in your life just happened and now we are going to blow it all out of proportion for days to keep you distracted from what's really going on.”

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Jonathanrex1 View Post
                The drug she used is perfectly legal.
                If she had a prescription...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by slick_miester View Post
                  The drug in question, is it available "over-the-counter," or only by physician's prescription?
                  According to the AP Article in the OP, the drug requires a prescription to be used in USA, but not so in other countries. The thing is though, according to the Washington Post, performing an abortion outside of an accredited facility after the First Trimester is illegal in Georgia.

                  So regardless of how she acquired the drug, she would have run afoul of Georgia State law anyway.

                  Thankfully for her, the murder charge has been dropped.

                  And no abortions can be performed in Georgia after the first trimester outside of a hospital, ambulatory surgical facility or licensed abortion facility.
                  In 2012, Georgia approved a controversial law that would ban abortions after 20 weeks — the point at which anti-abortion activists say a fetus can feel pain. Abortion rights activists argue that those laws are unconstitutional and impose an arbitrary time frame for fetal viability that isn’t backed by scientific evidence. That bill has been temporarily blocked by a state judge.
                  “The family is poor, so there’s not a lot of funds and everything,” Riggins said. “She felt like she didn’t have any money to get an abortion the legal way, and so as a result of not having money and being in a position of no resources, she ended up doing it the illegal way to not bring another child in the world … to not burden anyone else or burden herself.”
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Jonathanrex1 View Post
                    According to the AP Article in the OP, the drug requires a prescription to be used in USA, but not so in other countries. The thing is though, according to the Washington Post, performing an abortion outside of an accredited facility after the First Trimester is illegal in Georgia.

                    So regardless of how she acquired the drug, she would have run afoul of Georgia State law anyway.

                    Thankfully for her, the murder charge has been dropped.
                    Ironically, if she'd had the child and couldn't support it, she would have been condemned for irresponsibly having a child that required state assistance.

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                    • #11
                      This is a pony that has left the barn. You can order these pills on line from another country, or if you know someone traveling overseas they can pick them up without a prescription in places like Mexico. Or if you know of a place where they sell erection pills under the counter or at flea markets, they are likely selling this pill as well. They are used as an over the counter ulcer pill in other countries. They are supposedly very safe to use for that purpose, so how can they even prosecute her for having a dangerous drug in her possession? Very probably the only reason they have to have a prescription here is that they can be used as an abortion pill.

                      I’d bet a lot of young people who travel out of the country are picking them up for their friends, etc.

                      This is sort of like Pseudofed that you can only get with a prescription now in some places, like here in Missouri, because it can be used to manufacture methamphetamine, but in other places you can buy with no problem. I have picked up Pseudofed in Massachusetts when we visited or have family bring me a couple of boxes when they come to visit. Same sort of principle, why have Pseudofed running against my prescribed medication record or pay for a visit to the doctor to get them when they are easy to come by legally in another state.

                      And again, during the AIDS crisis where meds could be obtained overseas and not here because they were experimental, there were folks going out of the country bringing those drugs into this country a la Dallas Buyers Club. Some of those southern states have real good practice at bringing in illegal medical treatments.

                      It’s silly laws like this that cause people to disrespect the law so much. Did not someone on here advocate not obeying laws if you disagree with them. Well, there you go, some women will disrespect this law and most won't get caught.
                      Homo homini lupus

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