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  • Gixxer86g
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    Originally posted by Sergio View Post
    After reading this comment all I can do is send you the link to a dictionary. Being an apologist would mean defending, justifying, promoting or downplaying the issue in question.
    Feel free to start your own thread extoling the horrors that the US has inflicted upon the world. BTW, the only thing you aren't doing in your own, passive way is promoting.



    Now could you show me exactly where I defended Islamism, Jihadis, their violence, etc? In fact show me exactly where I defended Islam, its tenants or practises as a faith. A comment on the continued selective outrage, focus and perception of the usual people does not mean endorsing another faction or group. Besides could you show me where anything that was said was factually inaccurate?
    More of the same from you. Group A did it too, what's the problem with Group B? You defend by attacking someone else for similar circumstances. Yet you think you retain distance. You don't.

    We see this in the WW2 forums occasionally. You know the folks that attempt to downplay the atrocities of the Axis by pointing out events perpetrated by the Allies. I doesn't fly over there, and it doesn't fly here.

    So like I said, if you want to slag the US for past events, start your own thread, it's off topic here.

    Concerning your method of defending these groups, we've had this circular argument a few times before. I'm not wasting any more bandwidth on it.

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  • Taieb el-Okbi
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    Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
    So what?
    The site in my Sig is factual, and has links all over it to track the stats back to the original news accounts of what is happening.

    Weekly Jihad Report
    May 02 - May 08
    Jihad Attacks:
    53

    Allah Akbars*:
    16

    Dead Bodies:
    328

    Critically Injured:
    491

    *Suicide Attacks

    It is a reminder and a constantly updated compilation of the numbers of people killed by your friends the Terrorists, who you daily cover for with all this anti-Jewish blather of yours.

    But if you don't think that these attacks are happening, then prove it.

    The attacks happen, but it is infact Muslims and Christians whom are on the other side of ISIL. Either you dont know this, or worse, you are simply ignoring it.

    There is no war on Islam/Muslims as the religion of peace contributors like to try and point out , and thats the massive issue I have with folks whom harbor anti Muslim viewpoints.


    Your link, religionofpeace.com, takes a shot at Muslims in general. Your link is not beneficial to the war against ISIL, your link is like a group of men who are living in not even the 7th century(would be an insult to those who lived during those times).

    I feel the same looking at a religionofpeace.com signature as a I would looking at an ACG members sig that had a link to jewatch.com or Mein Kamph.

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  • The Exorcist
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    Originally posted by Bwaha View Post
    Ex. It's pointless. The troll has to troll...
    Oh, I know that, and 99% of the time I just ignore it.
    But damn, if this is what the Israelis have to put up with .... they must be the most patient people that ever lived.

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  • Bwaha
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    Ex. It's pointless. The troll has to troll...

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  • The Exorcist
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    Originally posted by Taieb el-Okbi View Post
    Like religionofpeace, Jewwatch claims that a large group of humans(jews) are out to get us.
    So what?
    The site in my Sig is factual, and has links all over it to track the stats back to the original news accounts of what is happening.

    Weekly Jihad Report
    May 02 - May 08
    Jihad Attacks:
    53

    Allah Akbars*:
    16

    Dead Bodies:
    328

    Critically Injured:
    491

    *Suicide Attacks

    It is a reminder and a constantly updated compilation of the numbers of people killed by your friends the Terrorists, who you daily cover for with all this anti-Jewish blather of yours.

    But if you don't think that these attacks are happening, then prove it.



    2015.05.12 (Bankalaparha, Bangladesh) - Four fundamentalists hack a secular blogger to death with knives on charges of being an atheist.
    2015.05.12 (Benghazi, Libya) - Four children are exterminated by an Islamic State rocket.
    2015.05.12 (Kazimiyah, Iraq) - The Islamic State bomb a roadside stand serving food to Shiite pilgrims, killing ten.
    2015.05.11 (Mavivi, DRC) - Five people are hacked to death with machetes by Islamist 'rebels'.
    2015.05.10 (Kumanovo, Macedonia) - Muslim terrorists wage a running battle with police, killing at least eight.
    2015.05.10 (Kabul, Afghanistan) - A suicide bomber kills three riders on a bus.

    * Sources for individual incidents can be provided upon request.
    Last edited by The Exorcist; 13 May 15, 17:19.

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  • Taieb el-Okbi
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    Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
    There are only two wars in this world that don't involve Muslim Fundamental-cases; Ukraine and the Congo.
    From Libya to Mindanao, the rest are all the same old crap.
    Have you checked out jewwatch.com ?

    http://www.jewwatch.com/



    Like religionofpeace, Jewwatch claims that a large group of humans(jews) are out to get us.

    I find it unfortunate when anti Muslim folks squirm around at the sight of holocaust denial, Anti Israel or even anti Jewish views, all of which are just as offensive as Anti Muslim views. I find it unfortunate when Anti Muslims hide behind the cowards view that well Muslims are not a race but Jews are.




    Wow though, I just had the chance to see your new signature exorcist, and I must say you are agreeing with the wrong people, you ought to agree with the Muslims and Christians in Syria and Iraq who are risking their lives to maintain their churches and Mosques.

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  • The Exorcist
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    There are only two wars in this world that don't involve Muslim Fundamental-cases; Ukraine and the Congo.
    From Libya to Mindanao, the rest are all the same old crap.

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  • Massena
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    Originally posted by Sergio View Post
    Read the comment that was responded to. He said as bad as a Muslim who goes on TV and blah, blah. Presumably it is bad regardless of who goes on TV and cites history out of context.

    Yeah you are right there are no wars elsewhere involving anyone excepting jihadis committing atrocities. There are some pretty terrible conflicts running at the moment - some actually involve non-Muslims. The jihadis are utter scum and a blight on this planet, they are not the only ones.
    It happens to be the one that the US and the West are involved in since at least 1993 when the World Trade Center was first attacked, or even earlier when the Marine barracks in Lebanon was attacked.

    And, no the Moslem Jihadists are not the only ones at present, but they are the main threat now, along with Iran and the Russians...

    Sincerely,
    M

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  • Michele
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    Originally posted by Taieb el-Okbi View Post
    You say that, and history shows us that Muslims and Christians worked together for 200+ years wrt to the Ottoman-French alliance.
    It was a pretty on-off thing, that alliance, but yes, the French were allied with the Ottoman empire.
    Then again the Austrians and Venice were at war with the Ottoman empire. For roughly the same period, on an on-and-off basis. So what does this demonstrate? That the Ottomans were jolly good fellows because they were allied with the French, but that they were dastardly barbarians because they skinned Venetian commanders alive?

    Past Christian scholars talked about how past Muslim majority lands were places of tolerance.
    Yeah, and others talked about what a bad place those countries were. But in any case, the key word here is "past". The other poster asked you a few questions about what is happening in the, you know, present, in those countries were the majority of the inhabitants favor the death penalty for those who abandon Islam, for instance, or in those where witchcraft is still a crime under the law of the land. Today, not in 1536.

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  • Sergio
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    Originally posted by sebfrench76 View Post
    Nobody showed support here when Charlie was treated.We needed 17 deaths to put millions of people in the streets.
    And it has nothing to do with Reps or Dems .
    Well said.

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  • Sergio
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    Originally posted by Michele View Post
    There also is the small detail of the thread's topic. This one, for instance, is about the alleged "Islamophobia" in the USA, so the FDLR in Congo or what happened in Ukraine until a few months ago is war-related but not topic-related, in this thread - both because Congo and Ukraine are not the USA and because, exactly, no Islamic terrorists are involved in those wars.

    It would be nice if these guys managed to stay on topic. But since their agenda usually goes well beyond the individual topic of a thread, that's unlikely to happen.
    So it is relevant to consider the actions of unrelated Muslims around the world in the perception of Muslims in the USA, but irrelevant to point out that those doing that usually do not apply the same logic or standard to others?

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  • Sergio
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    Originally posted by Gixxer86g View Post
    After reading this, all I can do is laugh. Apologist drivel. Nice try.
    After reading this comment all I can do is send you the link to a dictionary. Being an apologist would mean defending, justifying, promoting or downplaying the issue in question.

    a person who defends or supports something (such as a religion, cause, or organization) that is being criticized or attacked by other people
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/apologist

    Now could you show me exactly where I defended Islamism, Jihadis, their violence, etc? In fact show me exactly where I defended Islam, its tenants or practises as a faith. A comment on the continued selective outrage, focus and perception of the usual people does not mean endorsing another faction or group. Besides could you show me where anything that was said was factually inaccurate?

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  • frisco17
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    Originally posted by Michele View Post
    There also is the small detail of the thread's topic. This one, for instance, is about the alleged "Islamophobia" in the USA, so the FDLR in Congo or what happened in Ukraine until a few months ago is war-related but not topic-related, in this thread - both because Congo and Ukraine are not the USA and because, exactly, no Islamic terrorists are involved in those wars.

    It would be nice if these guys managed to stay on topic. But since their agenda usually goes well beyond the individual topic of a thread, that's unlikely to happen.
    Good point. Deflection tends to be one of the first tactics of someone who's argument has no ground to stand on so they have to move to a different field.

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  • Gixxer86g
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    Originally posted by Sergio View Post
    Slavery, the slaughter and dispossession of an indigenous people, a system that rivaled apartheid for its brutality and racism that ended a few decades ago, the Cold War, death squads, backing dictators around the globe, helping fuel an Islamist uprising that went on to spread around the planet, chemical warfare, torture, detention without trial, backing and facilitating terrorist or insurgent groups, launching wars based on completely made up reasons, drones and targeting anyone within an area based on age. That is just a brief outline of your country's approach to things. Let me know when that radical moment arrives when you guys learn to play nicely with other people.

    'Taieb' or whomever the hell he is paints a ridiculous picture in which he denies or downplays anything horrific that Muslims do and lies about the contents of the religion. Many of you on here do the same - and pretend that somehow your nation is so much cleaner than everyone else. The same can and should be said about mine and many others.
    After reading this, all I can do is laugh. Apologist drivel. Nice try.
    Last edited by Gixxer86g; 13 May 15, 05:02.

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  • Michele
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    Originally posted by frisco17 View Post
    No they aren't the only ones but who cares? That doesn't excuse anything they do nor does it make it somehow less horrible because someone else does something wrong. It's as irrelevant what goes on in other wars as it is when a certain someone brings up the Jews to excuse anything the Jihadists do.
    There also is the small detail of the thread's topic. This one, for instance, is about the alleged "Islamophobia" in the USA, so the FDLR in Congo or what happened in Ukraine until a few months ago is war-related but not topic-related, in this thread - both because Congo and Ukraine are not the USA and because, exactly, no Islamic terrorists are involved in those wars.

    It would be nice if these guys managed to stay on topic. But since their agenda usually goes well beyond the individual topic of a thread, that's unlikely to happen.

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