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  • Half Pint John
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    JEB, just elect Bernie.

    Take a closer look of what he is speaking about. You don't have to agree with all but he seems to be the the most different from the others.

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  • guthrieba
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    Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
    Probably because his actual performance as Secretary of State has gone off fairly well. The issues surrounding his candidacy are limited to the sort of generic partisan things you might expect for any long-serving politician. We might think they're important, but they're not career-ending stuff.

    Although frankly, I can't see him winning an election. The man has the charisma of a burnt stump. And after his previous failed run, I don't think the Dems would want to run him - not unless Hillary ends up a no-go.
    I don't see Kerry's constant caving into the Iranians as "going off fairly well."

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  • lakechampainer
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    Bernie Sanders Draws Crowd of 10,000 in Wisconsin - From NBC

    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016...consin-n385641

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    MADISON, Wisconsin - "In case you haven't noticed, there are a lot of people here," Bernie Sanders said a bit awed as he took the stage in front of nearly 10,000 in a coliseum here.
    Sanders has been attracting outsize crowds wherever he takes his unlikely presidential campaign. Five thousand came out for his kickoff rally in his hometown of Burlington, Vermont. Another 5,000 turned out in Denver, Colorado. In Minneapolis, a thousand listened from outside when the basketball arena where Sanders was speaking filled to capacity.
    But Madison was different.
    "Tonight we have made history," Sanders declared to thunderous applause. "Tonight we have more people at a meeting for a candidate for president of the United States than any other candidates have."
    Indeed, Sanders - the self-declared Democratic-socialist from Vermont; the former perennial protest candidate; the man who until a few weeks ago belonged to neither party - turned out more people Wednesday night than has any candidate of either party so far this year.
    Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton attracted 5,500 people, according to her campaign, to her kickoff rally in New York City, and 1,800 in Virginia last week but has otherwise not focused on large rallies. While Republican Sen. Ted Cruz had 11,000 for his launch at Liberty University, attendance was mandatory for the school's 13,000-strong student body, so it's unclear how many came of their own volition.
    In coming to Wisconsin, Sanders tapped into a restless progressive movement, mobilized and frustrated by the failed recall attempt in 2011 against Gov. Scot Walker, who is preparing for his own presidential run.
    "Bernie Sanders didn't build anything. He's the product of a movement," said Madison Capitol Times editor John Nicholas as he introduced Sanders on stage. "What you have done is demand that the 2016 presidential race have a true progressive in it."

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
    How can Hillary be doing so well in national polls, and not get a single vote here?

    So much for polling data, eh?
    Because for Democrats she is running all but unopposed. The Republican field is currently fractured among a number of candidates. Once one is settled on and Hillary has to actually start campaigning what for her numbers to collapse.
    By any account she is shrill, argumentative, grating, and irritating when she actually has to do anything beyond read a canned speech or attend a hand-picked photo op with supporters.

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  • drivin-fool
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    Joe Biden, because he has no chance in hell of becoming POTUS

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  • Daemon of Decay
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    Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
    How can Hillary be doing so well in national polls, and not get a single vote here?

    So much for polling data, eh?
    Well this is a microcosm of people for whom the right-of-center is labeled as being liberal or progressive, so it certainly fits that trend.

    Or maybe it's just the fact that we're just more intelligent than the rest of the nation?

    Doubtful, considering you're here, DoD.

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  • The Exorcist
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    How can Hillary be doing so well in national polls, and not get a single vote here?

    So much for polling data, eh?

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  • Trung Si
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    Originally posted by Skoblin View Post
    Dear God....anyone but Hillary


    ....or Kerry
    Ditto!

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  • lakechampainer
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    From Howie Carr in The Boston Herald: Bernie Sanders Raises Stink Over Dedorant Diversity

    http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opi...rant_diversity

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    Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont is the only candidate for president willing to name the real crisis confronting America.
    Too many underarm spray deodorants.
    Move over Obama, terrorism, illegal aliens, Obamacare and the sputtering economy.
    Old Spice is the real vice. En garde, Right Guard! Bernie Sanders has got your number. He wants to ice Ice Blue Secret, ax AXE and ban Ban.
    This is what he said the day before his official kickoff Wednesday in Burlington, Vt.: “You don’t necessarily need a choice of 23 underarm spray deodorants or of 18 pairs of sneakers when children are hungry in this country. I don’t think the media appreciate the kind of stress that ordinary Americans are working on.”
    In other words, Bernie supports your right to choose, unless you want to choose your own deodorant or running shoe. He supports diversity, except in the antiperspirant aisle. When the Sanderistas win, it will be Mayday for Almay. On foreign policy, he’s a dove with no use for Dove.
    How often have you thought to yourself, as you shop your local supermarket or pharmacy, if only I had just one or two brands to choose from — like in Venezuela or Cuba. That would truly be a worker’s utopia.

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  • lakechampainer
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    From Kimberly Atkins in The Boston Herald - Elizabeth Warren Lying Low on Patriot Act Showdown


    http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opi...on_patriot_act

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    WASHINGTON — Call it a Sunday Senate showdown: a rare weekend Capitol Hill battle over the Patriot Act, which will expire at midnight Sunday unless Congress acts. The high-stakes face-off between national security and privacy rights could end up in a stalemate unless someone can convince members of the upper chamber to compromise.
    Could this be a job for U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Warren — the congressional rabble-rouser from the Bay State?
    On one far end of the three-way conflict is Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, who wants a wholesale renewal of the law. On the other side of the spectrum is Sen. Rand Paul, the GOP presidential candidate from Kentucky, who wants to kill the law altogether.
    In the middle are Democrats, including President Obama, pressuring McConnell to back a bipartisan bill that would rein in the National Security Agency’s phone data collection program, which a federal judge recently struck down. That measure, the USA Freedom Act, passed with broad bipartisan support in the House last week and would allow the government to still obtain cellphone data collection, but only with warrants.


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    So who better than Warren, who has shown a penchant for vocally drumming up support for and against high-profile legislation, not only to get her desired legislative outcome but also to impact the presidential campaign debate, to lead the charge?
    But it doesn’t seem that Warren is ready to rally.
    Warren said she’d be there Sunday, explaining yesterday that “a court has now ruled that the Patriot Act is not lawful.”
    Actually, a federal court ruled the NSA phone program was not authorized by the language of the act; it didn’t rule on the legality of the law itself.
    Warren continued, “We were in the wrong place with the Patriot Act.” So she’s backing the House-passed measure. But not wholeheartedly: “USA Freedom is a step in the right direction in terms of providing protections for data security and to make sure that the government does not overreach in its wholesale collection of data. But I think it’s only a first step. And that there’s more work to be done.”
    While national security has never been one of Warren’s championed causes, the issue of protecting citizens’ privacy and 4th Amendment rights gels nicely with her progressive platform. But it seems that on Sunday, the debate will happen without a Warren wing revolt.

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  • Skoblin
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    Dear God....anyone but Hillary


    ....or Kerry

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  • Rojik
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    Is Frank Underwood running? He seems like a man you can trust.

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  • Mountain Man
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    The best possible candidate.

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  • lakechampainer
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    Bernie Sanders kicks off his presidential campaign on the shores of Lake Champlain.

    http://www.wptz.com/news/vermonts-sa...ngton/33221352


    BURLINGTON, Vt. (AP) —Challenging Hillary Rodham Clinton from the left, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders kicked off his presidential bid Tuesday with a pitch to liberals to join him in a "political revolution" to transform the nation's economy and politics.

    campaign kick off
    Supporters filled Waterfront Park in Burlington Tuesday afternoon for Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders' formal presidential kick off event.
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    Sanders, who entered the Democratic race in late April, formally opened his White House campaign in Burlington, where he was first elected mayor by defeating a longtime Democratic incumbent by 10 votes. Three decades later, Sanders is the underdog again, vowing to campaign on an agenda to elevate issues like income inequality, campaign finance and climate change.

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  • Urban hermit
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    He is a decorated Vietnam vet who hasn't made his service an issue, he worked for Republican presidents, and he supports the second amendment.
    That is important to me.

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