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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by sebfrench76 View Post
    In 1905 ,we voted a law that said "no religion of ANY kind will be visible in the exercise of our republic"
    It made things more simple .
    It was not a simple task to apply this law , but we don't know your present troubles.
    And from all accounts it has not simplified your situation with all of your Muslim immigrants, while the Cathedral of Notre Dame remains standing, right?

    We were doing fine until Mohammed Barack got into office, and then the racism and the anti-religious attacks began in full force. A lot of us see a distinct connection; others, who voted for this walking scrotum, claim they do not.

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by sebfrench76 View Post
    This , this is really at the same time ,brilliant and hilarious.
    Mostly, it's just hilarious. Here's a guy - DoD - who rants against anyone with strong personal views and then goes on a multi-part rant of his own to express...wait for it...his very own strong personal views.

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  • Taieb el-Okbi
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    Here was a situation which occurs in real life, we see below how sometimes folks do not like the answers they are getting to the question they ask,



    Mr Carson was pretty much asked the same question irt gay rights about 5 or 6 times in a row. I thought Mr. Carson handled himself in a gentlemen like manner, I say this even though I may disagree with some of Carsons viewpoints.

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  • sebfrench76
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    In 1905 ,we voted a law that said "no religion of ANY kind will be visible in the exercise of our republic"
    It made things more simple .
    It was not a simple task to apply this law , but we don't know your present troubles.

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  • sebfrench76
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    Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
    The on purpose bit is sorta important. If you think someone from a different political ideology is taking the nation down the wrong path, that's one thing - destroying and corrupting the nation is pretty strong imagery, but hardly Nut Job territory.

    But for the Nut it's all deliberate - Obama is a secretly Muslim anti-American who wants to destroy America from the inside. Just like how Bush was a fascist corporate shill who invaded Iraq to steal the oil and help implement a return to conscription, etc.

    Remember that being a Nut Job requires having views that are extreme, conspiratorial, downright loony, and they are incapable of understanding those points.

    Is Clinton a bad choice for next president due to her personal politics and a track record of failure and undesirable politics? Perfectly sane!

    Is Clinton a bad choice for next president because she and her husband secretly execute their enemies in a slow climb to the top? Nut job!

    So really, as long as you don't start talking about how the Gay Masons are trying to control banking or why we need to be prepared for when the Chinese launch a secret first strike, you're far from nut job territory!
    This , this is really at the same time ,brilliant and hilarious.

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  • Daemon of Decay
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    Originally posted by Savez View Post
    This article says it better than I can, except I disagree that there is a "militant secularization". Militant seems too strong of a word.

    http://m.christianity.com/christian-...er-attack.html
    See, I would disagree because of bits like this from the article:

    What is happening in America is an increasing hostility and intolerance toward Christian beliefs and values that many perceive to be an attack on religious freedom. In current American culture, you are free to be a Christian as long as you don’t actually live out your faith, vote your faith, take a stand in relation to your faith, or believe others should embrace your faith.
    The reason is, from the perspective of a filthy heathen from a good Christian family - and who has gone to Baptist higher education all his life - that the fact that people are not accepting a strictly Christian interpretation of morality and ethics that some view as an attack.

    There is literally nothing to stop you from voting, living, or believing in your faith.

    But gay marriage, for instance, is not an "attack" on Christianity. What it is is supplanting the previous domination Christianity had over the nation. It's loosing its monopoly on morality and ethics, and despite the fact that Christianity and Christians still possess a privileged position in the United States that small fact is viewed by some as an "attack".

    The sheer facts on the ground just don't match up with an attack on the faith. For instance, gay marriage doesn't demand you yourself have to accept gays - it just makes it so legally they have the same rights and privileges. It's a key difference - there is no law saying that you have to like anybody, but they can make it illegal to actually discriminate against them.

    And these blows to Christianity's previously held position being seen as a real threat to the religion seem ludicrous to us on the outside because I will face far more discrimination for being an Atheist than you will for being a Christian.

    To put it bluntly, because of Christianity's privileges in our nation and society, any move that brings it down to a more even position with other faiths or ideologies is going to seem like an attack from within. People still argue that the US is a Christian nation, after all - and if that doesn't show how it's really a matter of perspective, well, nothing will.

    The reason why I'm slow to believe claims about the faith being attacked is that not only does Christianity still possess a privileged position in our nation and society, but the term "attack" has been badly misused before, like when they were trying to put the 10 commandments into that court house, etc.

    The fact is that we still have presidents swearing an oath over a Bible, our money still says "In God We Trust", and every single President and Vice-President in our entire history has been a Christian.

    And even if that were to change and we removed those Christian trappings from the state, it wouldn't be an attack or a prosecution of Christians, unless we were to believe that right now all non-Christians are being prosecuted by not being held in that same privileged position.

    And despite some loons on the left who like to claim that sort of crap, it just isn't so.

    So if Christianity is under "attack" in the nation, then what about Atheists like me? You still have your deity mentioned on the money I use, and it's your holy book used to swear in our elected executives. So you can understand why it might take me some convincing to believe that Christians are being prosecuted.

    But then, I guess if one believes that secularization and the reduction of Christianity from its position of monopoly to a lesser role is an attack, then it becomes an issue of terminology really.

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  • Daemon of Decay
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    Originally posted by Savez View Post
    Never held a sign but I do think Obama is a liar. I also think the left is trying to destroy/ruin/corrupt the nation but not necessarily on purpose. Those are my only symptoms.
    The on purpose bit is sorta important. If you think someone from a different political ideology is taking the nation down the wrong path, that's one thing - destroying and corrupting the nation is pretty strong imagery, but hardly Nut Job territory.

    But for the Nut it's all deliberate - Obama is a secretly Muslim anti-American who wants to destroy America from the inside. Just like how Bush was a fascist corporate shill who invaded Iraq to steal the oil and help implement a return to conscription, etc.

    Remember that being a Nut Job requires having views that are extreme, conspiratorial, downright loony, and they are incapable of understanding those points.

    Is Clinton a bad choice for next president due to her personal politics and a track record of failure and undesirable politics? Perfectly sane!

    Is Clinton a bad choice for next president because she and her husband secretly execute their enemies in a slow climb to the top? Nut job!

    So really, as long as you don't start talking about how the Gay Masons are trying to control banking or why we need to be prepared for when the Chinese launch a secret first strike, you're far from nut job territory!

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  • Savez
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    Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
    Really? You believe Christianity as a faith is "under attack"? How has your faith been attacked? What are the authorities doing to subjugate Christianity beneath other faiths / a lack of faith?
    This article says it better than I can, except I disagree that there is a "militant secularization". Militant seems too strong of a word.

    http://m.christianity.com/christian-...er-attack.html

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  • Savez
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    Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
    Do or have you run around with a "God Hates Fags" / "Death to Extremist Christian Terrorist Pig Bush?" / "Obama lier in chief" / "Death to Israel! Death to America!" sign?

    Do you believe the world is about to end and it is smart to start building a bomb shelter and stocking up on canned food for the end of times?

    Do you loudly fear that the "other" political side is actively plotting to destroy/ruin/corrupt your home state/nation?

    Do you value the lives and livelihood of animals as much or more than the lives and livelihood of mankind?

    If any of these questions are answered positively, then you may need to be checked by a doctor for you might test positive for Nut Job.

    Never held a sign but I do think Obama is a liar. I also think the left is trying to destroy/ruin/corrupt the nation but not necessarily on purpose. Those are my only symptoms.

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  • Daemon of Decay
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    Originally posted by Hida Akechi View Post
    Wow, this is as bad as most of Tayeb's stuff he posts. I've put others on ignore for much less. Just goes to show you the real bigots here on these boards.
    Yes! Thank you for proving my point!

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  • Hida Akechi
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    Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
    I haven't seen much Right wing humor around here. Is that like those old "how many Jews can you fit in an ashtray?" jokes? Because I dunno, those seem a bit tasteless... although tasteless jokes do have a crass charm all their own.
    Wow, this is as bad as most of Tayeb's stuff he posts. I've put others on ignore for much less. Just goes to show you the real bigots here on these boards.

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  • Daemon of Decay
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    Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
    What the...?!

    Oh, okay, Right wing = Nazi for you, that's pretty typical these days.
    Disgusting, but typical.
    Yes, you're absolutely right - there is absolutely no reason to associate an extreme right-wing ideology with the phrase "right wing". My mistake.

    So, when do the gloves come off? once civilized discourse becomes meaningless, the next step is for us all to start killing each other.
    We are already much more foul to each other than people in this country were in the 1850s, and you know what came next.
    No we most certainly aren't!

    Our news media is an idol to bipartisanship when compared to the newspapers of the 1800s. I don't remember Fox News running articles about how Michelle is an ex-prostitute recently.

    Unless you went to Govt schools lately...
    So we're worse to each other than they were before the Civil War... and we're still not on the edge of another one. I, uh, don't really see your point here. Is the idea that if we start being nicer to one another then we might actually cause another Civil War?

    Dear god - we need to be even ruder!

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  • The Exorcist
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    Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
    I haven't seen much Right wing humor around here. Is that like those old "how many Jews can you fit in an ashtray?" jokes? Because I dunno, those seem a bit tasteless... although tasteless jokes do have a crass charm all their own.
    What the...?!

    Oh, okay, Right wing = Nazi for you, that's pretty typical these days.
    Disgusting, but typical.

    So, when do the gloves come off? once civilized discourse becomes meaningless, the next step is for us all to start killing each other.
    We are already much more foul to each other than people in this country were in the 1850s, and you know what came next.
    Unless you went to Govt schools lately...

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  • Daemon of Decay
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    Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
    So you want people in Kansas to die?
    Nope. There is plenty of useless, empty Kansas that is just asking for a nuclear explosion to make things interesting. Or just evacuate Wichita and just drop a MIRV on that sucker.

    Hey, I am applying the same standard to you that the scumbags like Emtos and Sergio apply to me. Pretty nasty, isn't it?
    Not really.

    But Left Wingers wil not or cannot allow Right wingers to have a sense of humor. They hate other people who have something they lack.
    I haven't seen much Right wing humor around here. Is that like those old "how many Jews can you fit in an ashtray?" jokes? Because I dunno, those seem a bit tasteless... although tasteless jokes do have a crass charm all their own.

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  • The Exorcist
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    Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
    Probably. Depends on where they set it off.

    We have a list of suggestions for Kansas.
    So you want people in Kansas to die?

    Hey, I am applying the same standard to you that the scumbags like Emtos and Sergio apply to me. Pretty nasty, isn't it?
    But Left Wingers wil not or cannot allow Right wingers to have a sense of humor. They hate other people who have something they lack.

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