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    The potential of a devastating attack to the US power grid by nuclear states such as North Korea or Iran has prompted the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) to return to its former location inside Cheyenne Mountain near Colorado Springs, Colorado, two former Reagan-era government officials write in The Wall Street Journal.

    "Why the return?" write Henry F. Cooper and Peter Vincent Pry. "Because the enormous bunker in the hollowed-out mountain, built to survive a Cold War-era nuclear conflict, can also resist an electromagnetic-pulse attack, or EMP."

    While the Pentagon is moving to shield its global air defense command from being knocked out by an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack, the Obama administration has failed to act on urgent recommendations to protect the country's civilian electronic infrastructure from a similar catastrophe, they write.

    "An EMP strike, most likely from the detonation of a nuclear weapon in space, would destroy unprotected military and civilian electronics nationwide, blacking out the electric grid and other critical infrastructure for months or years," Cooper and Pry write.

    "The staggering human cost of such a catastrophic attack is not difficult to imagine."

    The likeliest source of such an attack would be North Korea or Iran, according to Cooper, former director of the Strategic Defense Initiative, launched by the late President Ronald Reagan, and Pry, executive director of the EMP Task Force on National and Homeland Security and a veteran of the Central Intelligence Agency.

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ele.../01/id/642149/

    This is one of my gravest concerns. Our grid needs to be upgraded and maybe we should look at brilliant pebbles again as a program...
    Last edited by Bwaha; 02 May 15, 11:47.
    Credo quia absurdum.


    Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman

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    YEs but obviously the USA can well return the compliment!
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Wolfe Tone View Post
      YEs but obviously the USA can well return the compliment!
      Most likely but a shut down of the net and all computer controlled systems in the US would be very costly.
      "Ask not what your country can do for you"

      Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

      you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Bwaha View Post
        The potential of a devastating attack to the US power grid by nuclear states such as North Korea or Iran has prompted the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) to return to its former location inside Cheyenne Mountain near Colorado Springs, Colorado, two former Reagan-era government officials write in The Wall Street Journal.

        "Why the return?" write Henry F. Cooper and Peter Vincent Pry. "Because the enormous bunker in the hollowed-out mountain, built to survive a Cold War-era nuclear conflict, can also resist an electromagnetic-pulse attack, or EMP."

        While the Pentagon is moving to shield its global air defense command from being knocked out by an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack, the Obama administration has failed to act on urgent recommendations to protect the country's civilian electronic infrastructure from a similar catastrophe, they write.

        "An EMP strike, most likely from the detonation of a nuclear weapon in space, would destroy unprotected military and civilian electronics nationwide, blacking out the electric grid and other critical infrastructure for months or years," Cooper and Pry write.

        "The staggering human cost of such a catastrophic attack is not difficult to imagine."

        The likeliest source of such an attack would be North Korea or Iran, according to Cooper, former director of the Strategic Defense Initiative, launched by the late President Ronald Reagan, and Pry, executive director of the EMP Task Force on National and Homeland Security and a veteran of the Central Intelligence Agency.

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        This is one of my gravest concerns. Our grid needs to be upgraded and maybe we should look at brilliant pebbles again as a program...
        And yet the two nuclear-capable long range bombers who just violated Alaskan airspace were Russian.

        Meanwhile, moving NORAD back into Cheyenne Mountain does absolutely nothing to protect America itself from an EMP attack.
        Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
          And yet the two nuclear-capable long range bombers who just violated Alaskan airspace were Russian.

          Meanwhile, moving NORAD back into Cheyenne Mountain does absolutely nothing to protect America itself from an EMP attack.
          Not quite so, it safes the C&C structure which means that the communication lines will still be effective.
          Credo quia absurdum.


          Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bwaha View Post
            Not quite so, it safes the C&C structure which means that the communication lines will still be effective.
            No, they won't, since the actual military bases are above ground and not EMP proof. That is the fallacy of government and military leadership - as long as their butts are safe, they assume that everything else is just fine and dandy when in fact it isn't.

            It's just like the government bunkers: "Government will remain safe and able to communicate." Yeah? Communicate with whom? The 300 million Americans not in those bunkers, especially law enforcement officials, firefighters and EMTs, will not have electrical power or communications with anyone, especially with the government, and will be concerned with far more important issues than instructions from those hiding in their holes.


            You have to consider the bigger picture, Bwaha. It's not about NORAD; it's about America itself, first, last and always.


            Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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            • #7
              When MM is right he is very correct.
              "Ask not what your country can do for you"

              Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

              you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
                Most likely but a shut down of the net and all computer controlled systems in the US would be very costly.
                Yes it would. That's why making it perfectly clear to any potential attacker that our response would be far, far costlier for them is imperative.

                But to be honest, as a nation I don't think we have that kind of retaliation in us. Especially not with President Amoeba.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Gixxer86g View Post
                  Especially not with President Amoeba.
                  Good one!
                  Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                  • #10
                    I'm surprised it left Cheyenne Mountain.

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                    • #11
                      Yet another strike against Obama. Damn you Obama! Why if EMP's existed before 2008, a Republican president would have immediately tackled the problem.

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