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  • Poll study claims Republicans Likely To Back Israel — Even If Interests Clash

    Republicans are far more likely than Democrats to support Israel when U.S. and Israeli interests diverge.

    A Bloomberg News poll published this week found that 67 percent of Republican respondents agreed with the statement, “Israel is an important ally, the only democracy in the region, and we should support it even if our interests diverge,” while 30 percent agreed with the statement “Israel is an ally but we should pursue America’s interests when we disagree with them.”

    Those numbers were turned upside down among Democrats, with 64 percent of respondents agreeing with the latter statement. Overall, respondents were statistically tied over the question of whether the United States should pursue its own interests over Israel’s, with 47 percent agreeing and 45 percent disagreeing.


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    http://forward.com/news/breaking-new...ven-if-intere/

    There are now some threads here on acg as well as a few more voices in the USA suggesting that Hillary Clinton previously accepted money from questionable sources or that Clinton gets to much money from supporters ..That line of propaganda that Hillary Clinton has been bought by foreigners reminds me of the view that the GOP has been bought by Israelis .

    Now look at this folks ,

    http://forward.com/opinion/306750/wh...jewish-voters/

    Sheldon adelson ( a big time supporter of Israel)has unloaded hundreds of millions of dollars on potential GOP presidential Candidates and yet some voices in the GOP will complain about where and how much money Hillary has received. There is reasonable discourse and then there is what I would term as anti american propaganda , and the view that the us gov or the view that Hillary Clinton has been bought is anti american propaganda.

    One can't find a logical argument to prove the view that Hillary Clinton has been bought by foreigners and is working against the interests of the USA, especially when a guy like Sheldon adelson provided and provides plenty of money to GOP folks .

    If one travels around the USA one will find plenty of fun , what one will have a tough time finding in the USA are restaurants or bars where the discussions center around how usa presidential candidates have been bought by Israeli or Saudi or uk officials.

  • #2
    I agree that American politics is really turning international now. The Clinton Foundation and the numerous Bush family Foundations taking money from foreign donors, and those old Presidents getting paid by foreign entities to make speeches (Bill Clinton is not the only guilty party here in this matter) and then someone like Sheldon Adelson, a citizen of the US, and his wife who most of the time gives the same amount of money as he does is a dual American-Israeli citizen, who not only donates their money to US politicians but to Israeli pols, and that the majority of his money is made from casinos in Asia. And then of course many shareholders in American corporations are foreigners with voting shares (should we demand that corporations with those sorts of stockholders not be permitted to donate to political campaigns?). How many dual citizens of Mexico-United States are donating money? And are there not some dual Irish-American citizens as well?

    It just blows our minds, doesn’t it—all of that foreign influence. I just don’t know how the feds can keep it all sorted out.
    Homo homini lupus

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    • #3
      Just ran across this little tidbit.

      Though Adelson lost heavily in the Great Recession, shares of the Las Vegas Sands Corp. have climbed from 2008 lows of less than $2 to more than $52 in early 2013, and Forbes reports he is the nation's eighth wealthiest man worth an estimated $21.5 billion. His casino empire extends across the United States and Asia, and the company’s annual report shows more than $9.4 billion in revenues in 2011.

      The Las Vegas Sands Corp. has been under investigation by the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Department of Justice for more than a year on possible charges of bribing foreign officials, and more recently, for possible money laundering. A former executive’s 2010 wrongful-termination lawsuit also alleges that Las Vegas Sands Corp. was involved with Chinese organized crime groups.

      Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., a longtime campaign finance reform advocate, said the corporation’s activity abroad raises foreign money concerns.

      “Obviously, maybe in a roundabout way, foreign money is coming into an American campaign,” McCain said in an interview with PBS.
      http://www.publicintegrity.org/2012/...heldon-adelson

      We are never going to keep foreign money out of our politics unless we demand regulation of donations and require strict and public accounting of who gets what from who. Cynically, I just don't think that will happen ever again.
      Homo homini lupus

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      • #4
        Jannie,


        This adelson fellow sort of reminds me of Arnold rothstein , rothstein was a gambler but a sort of a dirty gambler . In the gambling business just as in any line of business, your going to have corruption.

        http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...egas-courtroom


        Success can be found anywhere through hard work , I admire some of the great past men of this country , men such as Henry ford who while ford held improper views of other types of people , ford paid his employees a more then fair wage considering the times. Now that is what america is all about, that 8 hour work day where your making enough money to buy yourself a good car and a decent home. Ford motor company employees used to have this , so many Americans used to make great money in the auto industry , nowadays the auto industry suffers. What has Sheldon adelson brought with his casino jobs? I talk to employees in casinos , the non tipping jobs in the casino such as the maintenance and kitchen folks make a low wage .

        Then again most casino employees who don't receive tips make low wages , this is not only a Sheldon adelson issue , nonetheless it is almost surreal to see mr adelson complain about how his own employees are making to much money when mr adelson himself is a multi billionaire.

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        • #5
          I stand with Israel. She would have to attack my home for me to stand against her.

          Until the Federal government is put in check by the free people of this country foreign money will continue to pour in. Its time to take a stand. The Republicans elected in November are cowards and liars. They've done nothing. Only my two boys from Alabama and a couple of others seem willing to make any stand.
          “I do not wish to have the slave emancipated because I love him, but because I hate his master."
          --Salmon P. Chase

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          • #6
            I don't find his ultra-billionaire status offensive, or even that he contributes to politicians, but I do find the fact that politicians line up with their hands out for his AND his wife's largess no matter the source of his money or the source of his wife's citizenship.

            And then that the recipients of his beneficence dare to complain about the source of the Clinton Foundation's money, which is not directly related to her campaign funds. That these politicians are so two-faced is to me astonishing.

            However, I do realize that the Republican campaigns and PACs are pitching out issues to see what will be big hits on the campaign trails. Some will go well and some will not.

            Long campaign and lots of nastiness coming. May the Gods stuff our ears.
            Homo homini lupus

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            • #7
              THere is an extremely interesting article here about how the Jewish community's support for Gays and other social liberterian issues could interfere with their support for evangelical's support for Israel.

              http://truth-out.org/buzzflash/comme...stian-zionists
              Homo homini lupus

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Savez View Post
                I stand with Israel. She would have to attack my home for me to stand against her.

                Until the Federal government is put in check by the free people of this country foreign money will continue to pour in. Its time to take a stand. The Republicans elected in November are cowards and liars. They've done nothing. Only my two boys from Alabama and a couple of others seem willing to make any stand.
                They attacked and killed US service men. Doesn't that count anything with you?
                "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                • #9
                  For an American, wouldn't backing Israëli interests over US interests be tantamount to treason?
                  BoRG

                  You may not be interested in War, but War is interested in You - Leon Trotski, June 1919.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Major Sennef View Post
                    For an American, wouldn't backing Israëli interests over US interests be tantamount to treason?
                    Is this something new? It's been going on since 1949 at least. It shouldn't come as a surprise when the US has the second largest Jewish population.
                    "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                    Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                    you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Savez View Post
                      I stand with Israel. She would have to attack my home for me to stand against her.

                      Until the Federal government is put in check by the free people of this country foreign money will continue to pour in. Its time to take a stand. The Republicans elected in November are cowards and liars. They've done nothing. Only my two boys from Alabama and a couple of others seem willing to make any stand.
                      I think you just answered my question, which you just ignored, in the other thread. You think that you're a patriot, but you're the furthest thing from it. You stand with Israel, but want to overthrow your own government. Nice...
                      You need to research the USS Liberty incident. It's not easy to win the MOH in peacetime, but the Captain managed.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Savez View Post
                        I stand with Israel. She would have to attack my home for me to stand against her.

                        Until the Federal government is put in check by the free people of this country foreign money will continue to pour in. Its time to take a stand. The Republicans elected in November are cowards and liars. They've done nothing. Only my two boys from Alabama and a couple of others seem willing to make any stand.
                        Before you burst into flames, you might notice that Obama is still in the white House, still exercisiing his executive pen and his veto and still preventing the Republicans from accomplishing their goals. If a Republican president is elected this time, things will change. Until then, this is still the Dems mess and will remain so until the Reps are properly sworn in.

                        And just for the record, "two politicians from Alabama " is the punchline to a bad joke.
                        The Clintons , for example, are "two politicians from Arkansas".
                        Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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