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    A Navy chaplain who faces the end of a stellar 19-year career because of his faith-based views on marriage and human sexuality was told by a base commander to refrain from offering a prayer in the name of Jesus, according to attorneys representing the chaplain.
    That allegation was tucked away in an 18-page letter written to the commander of Navy Region Southeast by Liberty Institute attorneys representing Chaplain Wesley Modder. Liberty Institute is a law firm that specializes in religious liberty cases.
    Liberty Institute asserts that Chaplain Modder’s fate could have a significant impact on every Christian military chaplain.
    The letter included the results of Liberty Institute’s investigation of allegations levied against the chaplain by Captain John Fahs.
    I’ll tackle that newest allegation later – but first here’s a recap of what I believe to be the LGBT-inspired witch hunt against Chaplain Modder:
    Last December, an openly gay officer at the Naval Nuclear Power Training Command in South Carolina, took offense at Modder’s take on homosexuality. The chaplain, who is endorsed by the Assemblies of God, was accused of discrimination and failing to show tolerance and respect – among other things.
    Just a few months earlier, Modder’s commander had called him the “best of the best” and a consummate professional leader.” But now he’s on the verge of being kicked out of the military.
    “After our investigation, it is clear that the facts and law are on Chaplain Modder’s side,” Liberty Institute attorney Michael Berry said. “He has done nothing more than provide ministerial services in accordance with the precepts of his faith – which is completely consistent with Navy rules and federal law.”
    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/...in-name-jesus/

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    Todd Starnes
    “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
    “To talk of many things:
    Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
    Of cabbages—and kings—
    And why the sea is boiling hot—
    And whether pigs have wings.”
    ― Lewis Carroll

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    • #3
      Just because the source is an idiot doesn't mean the information is bad. The facts are the facts. Ignore his analysis and you still see an issue at hand.
      Tacitos, Satrap of Kyrene

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      • #4
        Originally posted by TacCovert4 View Post
        Just because the source is an idiot doesn't mean the information is bad. The facts are the facts. Ignore his analysis and you still see an issue at hand.
        No, Starne's has played fast and loose with the facts for years, in almost every column. When reading an article you're silly if you do not evaluate the source and use that evaluation as you read the article. Starnes is a serial liar by omission. Simple fact.
        “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
        “To talk of many things:
        Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
        Of cabbages—and kings—
        And why the sea is boiling hot—
        And whether pigs have wings.”
        ― Lewis Carroll

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
          No, Starne's has played fast and loose with the facts for years, in almost every column. When reading an article you're silly if you do not evaluate the source and use that evaluation as you read the article. Starnes is a serial liar by omission. Simple fact.
          As is just about every journalist in the trade today.
          Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
            As is just about every journalist in the trade today.
            Starnes is in no way a journalist. He writes 'opinion' pieces where he typically lies by omission.
            “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
            “To talk of many things:
            Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
            Of cabbages—and kings—
            And why the sea is boiling hot—
            And whether pigs have wings.”
            ― Lewis Carroll

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            • #7
              In a Feb. 17 memo to Navy Personnel Command, Fahs said that a command investigation, which was conducted following complaints from several sailors, found that Modder:

              told students that homosexuality was wrong, and that the “penis was meant for the vagina and not for the anus.”
              suggested that he could “save” gay people.
              told a student she was “shaming herself in the eyes of God” for having premarital sex, and berated a pregnant student for becoming pregnant out of wedlock.
              asked a staff member about her sexual activities and then told her that she should be in love with God and not her partner.
              discriminated against students of different faiths and backgrounds.
              Modder and his attorney, Mike Berry, denied that the chaplain said or did anything inappropriate, and filed a religious accommodation request with the Navy last week.
              http://www.stripes.com/news/us/comma...quest-1.335290

              MM - do you get paid extra if the articles leave out even more of the facts than usual?

              Apologies for using such a lefty, Commie-Marxist, anti-traditional values and Muslim Obama supporting source.
              "Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it"
              G.B Shaw

              "They promised us homes fit for heroes, they give us heroes fit for homes."
              Grandad, Only Fools and Horses

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
                Starnes is in no way a journalist. He writes 'opinion' pieces where he typically lies by omission.
                Like just about every journalist in the business.
                Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sergio View Post
                  http://www.stripes.com/news/us/comma...quest-1.335290

                  MM - do you get paid extra if the articles leave out even more of the facts than usual?

                  Apologies for using such a lefty, Commie-Marxist, anti-traditional values and Muslim Obama supporting source.
                  do RSS bots get paid?
                  Кто там?
                  Это я - Почтальон Печкин!
                  Tunis is a Carthigenian city!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                    Like just about every journalist in the business.
                    Even so, Stanes is one of the worst of the bunch compounded by the fact that in less than 2 minutes of searching you can usually find coverage on what he has written about and easily see the important facts he has left out. He doesn't even try to spin, he just omits facts inconvenient to his objective.
                    Кто там?
                    Это я - Почтальон Печкин!
                    Tunis is a Carthigenian city!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                      Like just about every journalist in the business.
                      true

                      “Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.” -- Albert Einstein

                      The US Constitution doesn't need to be rewritten it needs to be reread

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
                        Where did he lie in the article?
                        "I don't discuss sitting presidents," Mattis tells NPR in an interview. "I believe that you owe a period of quiet."

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Nichols View Post
                          Where did he lie in the article?
                          From the OP link:

                          That brings me back to the moment when Chaplain Modder was told he could not pray in the name of Jesus Christ.

                          Liberty Institute alleges it happened shortly after Modder assumed chaplaincy responsibilities at the training command. He was asked to deliver an invocation at a ceremony.

                          As he was walking to the lectern, Fahs is alleged to have told him to deep-six the Jesus talk – “counsel that Chaplain Modder accepted and with which he complied.”
                          And if the Navy silences chaplains – they could certainly silence sailors.
                          The Chaplin was not performing a religious service. He was giving a invocation at a non-religious ceremony. His commander was perfectly within his authority to ask the Chaplin to make the invocation 'generic' by leaving out the specific reference to 'in Jesus name'.

                          Mr Starnes is claiming that the Navy is 'silencing' Chaplains and Christians in general, it is not. The Navy is not going to 'silence' Sailors....

                          His article is basically taking the lawyers who are representing the Chaplin and simply repeating them in his column. He omits ALL other sources that present any other part of the story. Lies of omission.
                          “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
                          “To talk of many things:
                          Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
                          Of cabbages—and kings—
                          And why the sea is boiling hot—
                          And whether pigs have wings.”
                          ― Lewis Carroll

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