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  • Obama commutes his dealer's sentence.

    Made you look didn't I? Just (sort of) kidding...

    Actually, Obama has been commuting sentences of drug dealers, particularly those involved in cocaine trafficking, a drug he himself has admitted use of...

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/...43?ocid=SMSDHP

    In a single stroke, President Barack Obama on Tuesday doubled the number of sentence commutations he has granted to federal prisoners since taking office, clearing the way for the release of 22 drug offenders.

    The move was part of an administration effort to reduce disparities in drug sentencing and scale back mandatory minimum prison sentences....

    ...To be considered for commutation, prisoners could pose no threat to public safety, have a clean prison record and have been sentenced under outdated laws, White House Counsel Neil Eggleston said.

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    He just commuted 2 crack cocaine dealers in our area, one was charged with being a felon and having a gun while selling.

    “Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.” -- Albert Einstein

    The US Constitution doesn't need to be rewritten it needs to be reread

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    • #3
      I'm no fan, but 43 sentences aren't a big deal. Especially since at 21 or more of the offenders had served at least ten years actual time.

      I would be curious about why those 43 got the treatment.
      Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
        I'm no fan, but 43 sentences aren't a big deal. Especially since at 21 or more of the offenders had served at least ten years actual time.

        I would be curious about why those 43 got the treatment.
        Well first they need to actually apply for the program. Not an easy task for the average drug offender in the Federal Prison system. DoJ program to help them and as of 2012 private groups are very small and fiscally constrained.

        http://www.politico.com/story/2015/0...es-116557.html

        More detail in the article above as to the more general news article in the OP.

        POLITICO reported in January that Obama’s commutation effort was still struggling to take off, stymied by a lack of resources at the Justice Department office that processes clemency applications and by a flood of requests for counsel that swamped the legal service project set up by the American Civil Liberties Union, Families Against Mandatory Minimums and others.
        So can't get one if you don't apply.
        “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
        “To talk of many things:
        Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
        Of cabbages—and kings—
        And why the sea is boiling hot—
        And whether pigs have wings.”
        ― Lewis Carroll

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
          Well first they need to actually apply for the program. Not an easy task for the average drug offender in the Federal Prison system. DoJ program to help them and as of 2012 private groups are very small and fiscally constrained.

          http://www.politico.com/story/2015/0...es-116557.html

          More detail in the article above as to the more general news article in the OP.

          So can't get one if you don't apply.
          Interesting.
          Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
            Well first they need to actually apply for the program. Not an easy task for the average drug offender in the Federal Prison system. DoJ program to help them and as of 2012 private groups are very small and fiscally constrained.

            http://www.politico.com/story/2015/0...es-116557.html

            More detail in the article above as to the more general news article in the OP.



            So can't get one if you don't apply.
            It's easier than that. Almost any federal prison has at least a few half way sharp inmates that can do the paperwork for another inmate (that is legal by the way) using the law library and previous successful inmate applications.
            Since they have access to a law library and can almost always get a copy of the successful case work, they will copy that modifying it for their own case.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
              It's easier than that. Almost any federal prison has at least a few half way sharp inmates that can do the paperwork for another inmate (that is legal by the way) using the law library and previous successful inmate applications.
              Since they have access to a law library and can almost always get a copy of the successful case work, they will copy that modifying it for their own case.
              Small limited number compared to the multiple 10,000's of thousands that are eligible for the program. And then after that all the applications are processed by a very small staff in the office at DoJ that handles them.
              “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
              “To talk of many things:
              Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
              Of cabbages—and kings—
              And why the sea is boiling hot—
              And whether pigs have wings.”
              ― Lewis Carroll

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              • #8
                Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                It's easier than that. Almost any federal prison has at least a few half way sharp inmates that can do the paperwork for another inmate (that is legal by the way) using the law library and previous successful inmate applications.
                Since they have access to a law library and can almost always get a copy of the successful case work, they will copy that modifying it for their own case.
                Yeah, its amazing as to the quality of legal work that comes out of inmate efforts. You see some pretty potent stuff.
                Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
                  Small limited number compared to the multiple 10,000's of thousands that are eligible for the program. And then after that all the applications are processed by a very small staff in the office at DoJ that handles them.
                  Well, that's only because 80% of inmates are about 1 IQ point above brain dead while another 9% are about as dumb as a drunk rabbit. It's the remaining 1% that are really dangerous intellectually.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                    Well, that's only because 80% of inmates are about 1 IQ point above brain dead while another 9% are about as dumb as a drunk rabbit. It's the remaining 1% that are really dangerous intellectually.
                    That's about right.

                    That, and most inmates live literally in the moment. you don't see many felons with the ability to think in terms of the future, but prison really closes them in.
                    Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                      Well, that's only because 80% of inmates are about 1 IQ point above brain dead while another 9% are about as dumb as a drunk rabbit. It's the remaining 1% that are really dangerous intellectually.

                      ..........

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                        Well, that's only because 80% of inmates are about 1 IQ point above brain dead while another 9% are about as dumb as a drunk rabbit. It's the remaining 1% that are really dangerous intellectually.
                        And? Supports my point.
                        “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
                        “To talk of many things:
                        Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
                        Of cabbages—and kings—
                        And why the sea is boiling hot—
                        And whether pigs have wings.”
                        ― Lewis Carroll

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                          That's about right.

                          That, and most inmates live literally in the moment. you don't see many felons with the ability to think in terms of the future, but prison really closes them in.
                          Which is why most of them will never even apply for this program. Self selection.
                          “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
                          “To talk of many things:
                          Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
                          Of cabbages—and kings—
                          And why the sea is boiling hot—
                          And whether pigs have wings.”
                          ― Lewis Carroll

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                            I'm no fan, but 43 sentences aren't a big deal. Especially since at 21 or more of the offenders had served at least ten years actual time.

                            I would be curious about why those 43 got the treatment.
                            Well....what minority group do they belong to?
                            Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
                              And? Supports my point.
                              Which is why that 1% always has lots of commissary in their cell... The other 99% may be dumb as house bricks but they ain't stupid, so they pay the 6 soups, two tuna packs, and a bag of tortilla chips a week to their "lawyer" who writes up a package for them...

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