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  • Anti Austerity Protest Montreal

    As this topic has not been covered here I thought I would give it a go.

    Thousands in Montreal Unite Against Austerity and Petro-Economy

    http://www.commondreams.org/views/20...-petro-economy

    Here is quote from the first comment after the above story.

    "The real reason for demonizing Venezuela is that it's one of the few places that spreads some of the corporate goodies (oil revenues) around. Qaddafi did so and ended up dead, and he is hardly the first. Today's oligarchs mean business and viewing human life as cheap and setting their cold sterile minds on the goal of Population Reduction,"


    My first reaction to these events is to wonder if any of the protesters have every had to really work. I mean real, manual, productive work like on a farm or in construction. Then I remembered how China and the Soviet Union sent "intellectuals" to work on farms so they could learn humility. The socialist utopia these people dream of is probably their worst nightmare as they may actually be required to be productive members of society.

    Philosophy like religion is based on faith and the thinly veiled Marxism that is promoted in the educational system is directed at young people who have no experience with the realities of productivity. It's hard to believe that the ideas of an obscure German with no real experience in productivity are still considered valid today? That however is the way faith based systems work as they required no validation through actual experience. The great achievement of the enlightenment was the revelation that philosophy and religion should be questioned and that beliefs should be supported by evidence not empty logic.

    Three hundred years latter it seems that the need to question faith is a lesson that needs to be relearned. Our polarized politics are starting to look more like religious wars than rational discourse.
    We hunt the hunters

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    "The real reason for demonizing Venezuela is that it's one of the few places that spreads some of the corporate goodies (oil revenues) around. Qaddafi did so and ended up dead, and he is hardly the first. Today's oligarchs mean business and viewing human life as cheap and setting their cold sterile minds on the goal of Population Reduction,"
    It is also one of the few places toilet paper is rationed due to shortages...

    Is this the toilet paper line?

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    • #3
      Yep, toilet paper there is a big deal. Why? Because a lot of things, like TP, have price controls. It costs more to import TP than you can legally sell it for. I bet there's a huge black market for TP, shame Sears quit printing their catalogs in cheap paper.
      "If you are right, then you are right even if everyone says you are wrong. If you are wrong then you are wrong even if everyone says you are right." William Penn.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
        As this topic has not been covered here I thought I would give it a go.

        Thousands in Montreal Unite Against Austerity and Petro-Economy

        http://www.commondreams.org/views/20...-petro-economy

        Here is quote from the first comment after the above story.

        "The real reason for demonizing Venezuela is that it's one of the few places that spreads some of the corporate goodies (oil revenues) around. Qaddafi did so and ended up dead, and he is hardly the first. Today's oligarchs mean business and viewing human life as cheap and setting their cold sterile minds on the goal of Population Reduction,"


        My first reaction to these events is to wonder if any of the protesters have every had to really work. I mean real, manual, productive work like on a farm or in construction. Then I remembered how China and the Soviet Union sent "intellectuals" to work on farms so they could learn humility. The socialist utopia these people dream of is probably their worst nightmare as they may actually be required to be productive members of society.

        Philosophy like religion is based on faith and the thinly veiled Marxism that is promoted in the educational system is directed at young people who have no experience with the realities of productivity. It's hard to believe that the ideas of an obscure German with no real experience in productivity are still considered valid today? That however is the way faith based systems work as they required no validation through actual experience. The great achievement of the enlightenment was the revelation that philosophy and religion should be questioned and that beliefs should be supported by evidence not empty logic.

        Three hundred years latter it seems that the need to question faith is a lesson that needs to be relearned. Our polarized politics are starting to look more like religious wars than rational discourse.
        Your last lines are admirable, but when your response to someone else's beliefs are to question if they'd ever worked or to comment on "Marxism" then it sorta shows that the partisan attitudes of today are not going away anytime soon.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
          It is also one of the few places toilet paper is rationed due to shortages...

          Is this the toilet paper line?

          Maybe in someplace like Ecuador...
          Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
            As this topic has not been covered here I thought I would give it a go.

            Thousands in Montreal Unite Against Austerity and Petro-Economy

            http://www.commondreams.org/views/20...-petro-economy

            Here is quote from the first comment after the above story.

            "The real reason for demonizing Venezuela is that it's one of the few places that spreads some of the corporate goodies (oil revenues) around. Qaddafi did so and ended up dead, and he is hardly the first. Today's oligarchs mean business and viewing human life as cheap and setting their cold sterile minds on the goal of Population Reduction,"


            My first reaction to these events is to wonder if any of the protesters have every had to really work. I mean real, manual, productive work like on a farm or in construction. Then I remembered how China and the Soviet Union sent "intellectuals" to work on farms so they could learn humility. The socialist utopia these people dream of is probably their worst nightmare as they may actually be required to be productive members of society.

            Philosophy like religion is based on faith and the thinly veiled Marxism that is promoted in the educational system is directed at young people who have no experience with the realities of productivity. It's hard to believe that the ideas of an obscure German with no real experience in productivity are still considered valid today? That however is the way faith based systems work as they required no validation through actual experience. The great achievement of the enlightenment was the revelation that philosophy and religion should be questioned and that beliefs should be supported by evidence not empty logic.

            Three hundred years latter it seems that the need to question faith is a lesson that needs to be relearned. Our polarized politics are starting to look more like religious wars than rational discourse.
            Welcome to the World of George Orwell.

            The only worthwhile philosophy to me is that of "Question everything."
            Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Trailboss49 View Post
              Yep, toilet paper there is a big deal. Why? Because a lot of things, like TP, have price controls. It costs more to import TP than you can legally sell it for. I bet there's a huge black market for TP, shame Sears quit printing their catalogs in cheap paper.
              Are you saying they don't have newspapers to use?

              Canada, BTW, makes toilet paper.
              Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
                As this topic has not been covered here I thought I would give it a go.

                Thousands in Montreal Unite Against Austerity and Petro-Economy

                http://www.commondreams.org/views/20...-petro-economy

                Here is quote from the first comment after the above story.

                "The real reason for demonizing Venezuela is that it's one of the few places that spreads some of the corporate goodies (oil revenues) around. Qaddafi did so and ended up dead, and he is hardly the first. Today's oligarchs mean business and viewing human life as cheap and setting their cold sterile minds on the goal of Population Reduction,"


                My first reaction to these events is to wonder if any of the protesters have every had to really work. I mean real, manual, productive work like on a farm or in construction. Then I remembered how China and the Soviet Union sent "intellectuals" to work on farms so they could learn humility. The socialist utopia these people dream of is probably their worst nightmare as they may actually be required to be productive members of society.

                Philosophy like religion is based on faith and the thinly veiled Marxism that is promoted in the educational system is directed at young people who have no experience with the realities of productivity. It's hard to believe that the ideas of an obscure German with no real experience in productivity are still considered valid today? That however is the way faith based systems work as they required no validation through actual experience. The great achievement of the enlightenment was the revelation that philosophy and religion should be questioned and that beliefs should be supported by evidence not empty logic.

                Three hundred years latter it seems that the need to question faith is a lesson that needs to be relearned. Our polarized politics are starting to look more like religious wars than rational discourse.
                An excellent summary.

                A good dose of reality is the only possible cure for morons.
                Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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