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  • Another train hauling oil derails

    This one is in Illinois and would have been replaced by the Keystone XL if it were in place.

    The Obama administration's response to these derailments (this one and previous ones) isn't to allow the pipeline to be built but rather put new regulations to make tank cars stronger.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fre...aD?ocid=SMSDHP

    Obama the Ignorant strikes again.

  • #2
    Hmmm...awfully easy to derail a train..."und highly suspicious" as Arnie used to say on Laugh In.

    Makes me wonder if someone has an agenda.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      Hmmm...awfully easy to derail a train..."und highly suspicious" as Arnie used to say on Laugh In.

      Makes me wonder if someone has an agenda.
      Probably the Saudis...
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      • #4
        Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
        This one is in Illinois and would have been replaced by the Keystone XL if it were in place.

        The Obama administration's response to these derailments (this one and previous ones) isn't to allow the pipeline to be built but rather put new regulations to make tank cars stronger.

        http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fre...aD?ocid=SMSDHP

        Obama the Ignorant strikes again.
        Please explain how the pipeline from Canada would handle these:

        Bakken oil patch of North Dakota and Montana,
        That is from your link. So the oil sands pipeling will handle Montana crude? ND crude? Please explain.
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        Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
        Of cabbages—and kings—
        And why the sea is boiling hot—
        And whether pigs have wings.”
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
          Please explain how the pipeline from Canada would handle these:



          That is from your link. So the oil sands pipeling will handle Montana crude? ND crude? Please explain.
          I think the OP is only trying to point out that a pipeline is safer than shipping oil by rail or truck which both go thru populated areas, but some people just don't want to understand that.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Jose50 View Post
            Probably the Saudis...
            I was thinking more those pushing Keystone.
            Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Trung Si View Post
              I think the OP is only trying to point out that a pipeline is safer than shipping oil by rail or truck which both go thru populated areas, but some people just don't want to understand that.
              Yes it would be. However he explicitly states XL would have prevented this wreck.
              “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
              “To talk of many things:
              Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
              Of cabbages—and kings—
              And why the sea is boiling hot—
              And whether pigs have wings.”
              ― Lewis Carroll

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
                Please explain how the pipeline from Canada would handle these:



                That is from your link. So the oil sands pipeling will handle Montana crude? ND crude? Please explain.
                Ummm, yes the pipeline will handle Montana crude.



                Watch the dotted line. You see the storage facility in Baker marked in big bold letters? Take a gander at what state it's in.

                Nice try.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
                  Please explain how the pipeline from Canada would handle these:



                  That is from your link. So the oil sands pipeling will handle Montana crude? ND crude? Please explain.
                  KXL will also handle Bakken oil headed to Gulf Coast refineries, reducing the need for rail transport.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
                    KXL will also handle Bakken oil headed to Gulf Coast refineries, reducing the need for rail transport.
                    The XL pipeline project websites states it will "transport" Canadian oil and will "support" Bakken oil. Why the hedging with different terms. Why not say 'transport' Bakken oil?
                    “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
                    “To talk of many things:
                    Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
                    Of cabbages—and kings—
                    And why the sea is boiling hot—
                    And whether pigs have wings.”
                    ― Lewis Carroll

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Pirateship1982 View Post
                      Ummm, yes the pipeline will handle Montana crude.



                      Watch the dotted line. You see the storage facility in Baker marked in big bold letters? Take a gander at what state it's in.

                      Nice try.
                      Sorry. from the very site you got that map they specifically do NOT use the term transport. Look for yourself and explain the hedging.

                      Along with transporting crude oil from Canada, the Keystone XL Pipeline will also support the significant growth of crude oil production in the United States from producers in the Bakken region of Montana and North Dakota.
                      - See more at: http://keystone-xl.com/about/the-key....eeagxRcp.dpuf
                      “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
                      “To talk of many things:
                      Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
                      Of cabbages—and kings—
                      And why the sea is boiling hot—
                      And whether pigs have wings.”
                      ― Lewis Carroll

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
                        The XL pipeline project websites states it will "transport" Canadian oil and will "support" Bakken oil. Why the hedging with different terms. Why not say 'transport' Bakken oil?
                        Keystone XL Pipeline Project

                        The Keystone XL Pipeline is a proposed 1,179-mile (1,897 km), 36-inch-diameter crude oil pipeline beginning in Hardisty, Alta., and extending south to Steele City, Neb. This pipeline is a critical infrastructure project for the energy security of the United States and for strengthening the American economy.

                        Along with transporting crude oil from Canada, the Keystone XL Pipeline will also support the significant growth of crude oil production in the United States by allowing American oil producers more access to the large refining markets found in the American Midwest and along the U.S. Gulf Coast.

                        For more information on the project please visit the Keystone XL Pipeline Project website at Keystone-XL.com.

                        http://www.transcanada.com/keystone.html

                        The hedging must be hiding on the "grassy knoll."
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
                          Keystone XL Pipeline Project

                          The Keystone XL Pipeline is a proposed 1,179-mile (1,897 km), 36-inch-diameter crude oil pipeline beginning in Hardisty, Alta., and extending south to Steele City, Neb. This pipeline is a critical infrastructure project for the energy security of the United States and for strengthening the American economy.

                          Along with transporting crude oil from Canada, the Keystone XL Pipeline will also support the significant growth of crude oil production in the United States by allowing American oil producers more access to the large refining markets found in the American Midwest and along the U.S. Gulf Coast.

                          For more information on the project please visit the Keystone XL Pipeline Project website at Keystone-XL.com.

                          http://www.transcanada.com/keystone.html

                          The hedging must be hiding on the "grassy knoll."
                          Nope right in your post. Explain the use of different terms.
                          “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
                          “To talk of many things:
                          Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
                          Of cabbages—and kings—
                          And why the sea is boiling hot—
                          And whether pigs have wings.”
                          ― Lewis Carroll

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
                            The XL pipeline project websites states it will "transport" Canadian oil and will "support" Bakken oil. Why the hedging with different terms. Why not say 'transport' Bakken oil?


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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
                              Sorry. from the very site you got that map they specifically do NOT use the term transport. Look for yourself and explain the hedging.



                              - See more at: http://keystone-xl.com/about/the-key....eeagxRcp.dpuf
                              The only way a pipeline can support crude oil production growth is by transporting the crude oil to market.
                              Along with transporting crude oil from Canada, the Keystone XL Pipeline will also support the significant growth of crude oil production in the United States from producers in the Bakken region of Montana and North Dakota.

                              This pipeline will allow Canadian and American oil producers more access to the large refining markets found in the American Midwest and along the U.S. Gulf Coast.

                              - See more at: http://keystone-xl.com/about/the-key....n0eS8ur3.dpuf
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