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  • House GOP to allow vote on clean DHS funding bill

    From a GOP conference this morning:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/0...3.html?hp=t1_r

    “I am as outraged and frustrated as you at the lawless and unconstitutional actions of this president,” Boehner said to a private meeting of Republicans, in reference to President Barack Obama’s changes to the enforcement of immigration laws, according to a source in the room. “I believe this decision – considering where we are – is the right one for this team, and the right one for this country.
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    “The good news is that the president’s executive action has been stopped, for now. This matter will continue to be litigated in the courts, where we have our best chance of winning this fight,” Boehner added.
    Boehner received a standing ovation, according to a source in the room. The speaker’s decision shows that he is refusing to be hamstrung by a pocket of conservatives who blocked a one-week extension of DHS funding last week. Indeed, he is risking their wrath in deciding to work with both parties to fund the anti-terrorism agency through the remainder of the fiscal year, Sept. 30.
    Minor swabble eats up almost 3 weeks of legislation time. We still have the Budge, the 13+ appropriations bills, 13+ authorization bills to do this summer plus the debt ceiling. Anyone want to bet they can't get themselves to agree on them, let alone pass them?

    And some thought it would be different than with the Dems in charge. Well, it is different as in it's internal fighting not Dems vs GOP.

    Will be an interesting legislative summer.
    “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
    “To talk of many things:
    Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
    Of cabbages—and kings—
    And why the sea is boiling hot—
    And whether pigs have wings.”
    ― Lewis Carroll

  • #2
    Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
    From a GOP conference this morning:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/0...3.html?hp=t1_r

    Minor swabble eats up almost 3 weeks of legislation time. We still have the Budge, the 13+ appropriations bills, 13+ authorization bills to do this summer plus the debt ceiling. Anyone want to bet they can't get themselves to agree on them, let alone pass them?

    And some thought it would be different than with the Dems in charge. Well, it is different as in it's internal fighting not Dems vs GOP.

    Will be an interesting legislative summer.
    The DNP has its internal squabbles, too. Aisle-crossing & dissent is why they were unable to exploit their recent majority.

    And the less Congress does, the better off the nation is.
    Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
      And the less Congress does, the better off the nation is.
      I agree!
      Trying hard to be the Man, that my Dog believes I am!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
        Minor swabble eats up almost 3 weeks of legislation time. We still have the Budge, the 13+ appropriations bills, 13+ authorization bills to do this summer plus the debt ceiling. Anyone want to bet they can't get themselves to agree on them, let alone pass them?

        And some thought it would be different than with the Dems in charge. Well, it is different as in it's internal fighting not Dems vs GOP.

        Will be an interesting legislative summer.
        It would be nice if Obama the Ignorant actually started trying in the least to work with Congress rather than through executive fiat and making one-sided demands. Of course his accomplice, and Minion of Ignorance, Harry Reid is still flummoxing the works up in the Senate running interference for the White House.

        Democrats = The party of NO! at the moment.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
          The DNP has its internal squabbles, too. Aisle-crossing & dissent is why they were unable to exploit their recent majority.

          And the less Congress does, the better off the nation is.
          Wrong...the less the Democratic portion of Congress does, the better. I still have hopes that the Republicans can unravel some of the nonsense passed by the Dems.
          Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
            Wrong...the less the Democratic portion of Congress does, the better. I still have hopes that the Republicans can unravel some of the nonsense passed by the Dems.
            Not wrong from my point of view, the job of Congress is to make Laws and Laws are always against something, never for anything, that's the way I look at it!
            Trying hard to be the Man, that my Dog believes I am!

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            • #7
              So it will just be a funding bill devoid of any tagged on "amnesty" provisions put forward by the administration?
              "I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
              George Mason
              Co-author of the Second Amendment
              during Virginia’s Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Cyberknight View Post
                So it will just be a funding bill devoid of any tagged on "amnesty" provisions put forward by the administration?
                That is the current poop that is out there.
                “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
                “To talk of many things:
                Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
                Of cabbages—and kings—
                And why the sea is boiling hot—
                And whether pigs have wings.”
                ― Lewis Carroll

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                  It would be nice if Obama the Ignorant actually started trying in the least to work with Congress rather than through executive fiat and making one-sided demands. Of course his accomplice, and Minion of Ignorance, Harry Reid is still flummoxing the works up in the Senate running interference for the White House.

                  Democrats = The party of NO! at the moment.
                  He did, so did the Dem controlled Senate when it passed a comprehensive BIPARTISAN immigration bill. What happened to that in the House? Debated? Voted on?

                  Nope.

                  The result is the current WH EO.
                  “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
                  “To talk of many things:
                  Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
                  Of cabbages—and kings—
                  And why the sea is boiling hot—
                  And whether pigs have wings.”
                  ― Lewis Carroll

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
                    He did, so did the Dem controlled Senate when it passed a comprehensive BIPARTISAN immigration bill. What happened to that in the House? Debated? Voted on?

                    Nope.

                    The result is the current WH EO.
                    Red herring. You cite one instance where the Republicans wouldn't go along with a Democrat introduced bill that gave Obama the Ignorant virtually everything he wanted in immigration. That is just a variant of Obama the Ignorant wanting everything his way or no way at all. There was little compromise in that bill, if any.

                    On the other hand, the House has passed numerous bills most with bipartisan support only to see them die in Harry Reid's Democrat led Senate. Now Reid is doing everything possible to kill off bills sent over by the House using the filibuster rules he so loathed, and even changed, when the Democrats had control of the Senate.
                    I can't wait to see the Democrat teeth gnashing as the Republicans now control approval of Obama the Ignorant's appointees due to rules Democrat Harry Reid put in place.

                    Obama the Ignorant rarely calls any congressman. He does little to nothing to work with Congress on anything. He has been very consistent in that the entire time he has been in office.
                    If there is a roadblock to compromise and getting things done in Washington right now the number 1 suspect is Obama the Ignorant. He is an incompetent amateur as President, even after six years in office. In this, Obama is really almost a singular figure in Presidential history. I don't think there has been another President, ever, that was so intransigent and narrow minded that he couldn't work with Congress, even when it was in the hands of his own party. That is Obama the Ignorant.

                    Remember the first time he deigned to meet with Republican congressional leadership after months in office when Obamacare looked like it would fail to pass? "I won, get over it."
                    He made demands. He was arrogant and dismissive of Republicans. All he did was anger them making them all the more determined to oppose him. Obama the Ignorant truly is a fool when it comes to coalition politics.

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                    • #11
                      All done.

                      257-167 final vote. 75 GOP members joined the entire Dem caucus to pass the bill.
                      “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
                      “To talk of many things:
                      Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
                      Of cabbages—and kings—
                      And why the sea is boiling hot—
                      And whether pigs have wings.”
                      ― Lewis Carroll

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
                        All done.

                        257-167 final vote. 75 GOP members joined the entire Dem caucus to pass the bill.
                        Proving once again that it is the current crop of Democrats that are the obstructionists....

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                          Proving once again that it is the current crop of Democrats that are the obstructionists....
                          interesting. The bill was passed, the DHS is now funded and the Dems are obstructing. Strange opinion.
                          “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
                          “To talk of many things:
                          Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
                          Of cabbages—and kings—
                          And why the sea is boiling hot—
                          And whether pigs have wings.”
                          ― Lewis Carroll

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
                            interesting. The bill was passed, the DHS is now funded and the Dems are obstructing. Strange opinion.
                            The first bill that Obama the Ignorant was threatening a veto never made it out of the Senate. Harry Reid saw to that with a threatened filibuster. Why couldn't the Senate get a vote on it?

                            Now, along comes one favorable to the Democrats and both parties vote for it in a bipartisan effort.

                            The Democrats are obstructing. They have been from day 1 of this administration.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                              The first bill that Obama the Ignorant was threatening a veto never made it out of the Senate. Harry Reid saw to that with a threatened filibuster. Why couldn't the Senate get a vote on it?

                              Now, along comes one favorable to the Democrats and both parties vote for it in a bipartisan effort.

                              The Democrats are obstructing. They have been from day 1 of this administration.
                              Yes, that is how it works, how it always worked. Are trying to say that any party in the Senate filibusters is obstructing? Strange I did not hear you say that in recent years..... very strange.

                              Look they keep track of these.

                              https://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/re...tureCounts.htm

                              51 in 2007-8.
                              28 in 2009-10.
                              32 in the next
                              29 in the next.

                              Who would have thought your belief in obstructionism is so strong, yet you did not mention these over the years.
                              “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
                              “To talk of many things:
                              Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
                              Of cabbages—and kings—
                              And why the sea is boiling hot—
                              And whether pigs have wings.”
                              ― Lewis Carroll

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