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  • Another threat to our Freedom of Speech

    http://reason.com/archives/2015/02/2...lity-a-soluti/

  • #2
    Well, it looks like the FCC will go through with this. It appears to me that smaller providers, internet services, and individual users will all face higher prices.

    The reason is that cable companies and Internet service providers won't lower their prices on small providers but rather raise them on big ones. That means the big ones take a small hit while the small guys get bent over once again.
    This also appears to have two other affects, maybe not right away.
    First, it raises the bar for entry into an Internet based service by raising costs and regulatory compliance.
    Second, it makes it attractive for larger providers and users to buy up smaller ones as their is no longer any disadvantage in cost to doing so.

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    • #3
      "If it ain't broke don't fix it." Will Rogers.
      "If you are right, then you are right even if everyone says you are wrong. If you are wrong then you are wrong even if everyone says you are right." William Penn.

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      • #4
        More government control, coming right up...


        The Federal Communications Commission on Thursday adopted sweeping new regulations sought by President Obama for how Americans use and do business on the Internet, in a party-line vote that is sure to be challenged by the broadband industry.
        The commission, following a contentious meeting, voted 3-2 to adopt its so-called net neutrality plan -- a proposal that remained secret in the run-up to the final vote.
        On its surface, the plan is aimed at barring service providers from creating paid "fast lanes" on the Internet, which consumer advocates and Internet companies worry would edge out cash-strapped startups and smaller Internet-based businesses. Chairman Tom Wheeler said it would ensure an "open, unfettered network."
        But the rules, more broadly, would put the Internet in the same regulatory camp as the telephone by classifying it like a public utility, meaning providers like Comcast or Verizon would have to act in the "public interest" when providing a mobile connection to your home or phone.
        Republican Commissioner Ajit Pai, who delivered some of the most scathing criticism of the plan Thursday, warned the policy represents a "monumental shift" to "government control of the Internet."
        http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015...used-meddling/
        Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
          Well, it looks like the FCC will go through with this. It appears to me that smaller providers, internet services, and individual users will all face higher prices.

          ....
          We shoudl have been more supportive of Occupy WallStreet, eh?

          This is just more Crony Capitalism allied with BIG Govt to rape the Middle class.
          And they act as if they are bullet-proof.
          "Why is the Rum gone?"

          -Captain Jack

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          • #6
            Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
            We shoudl have been more supportive of Occupy WallStreet, eh?

            This is just more Crony Capitalism allied with BIG Govt to rape the Middle class.
            And they act as if they are bullet-proof.
            OWS was a bunch of delusional Lefties. But, this is Statist Capitalism at work. It will give larger Internet providers a near monopoly on the system, much like Microsoft has on PC operating systems.
            That is often the objective of Big Business today. Don't fight government regulation, embrace it. Help government make regulations that limit competition and secure their position in the market.

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            • #7
              Haven't I been shouting that warning for over a week? http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...d.php?t=156731

              It is now happened on a split vote.

              BORN: Department of Internet.. Kiss cable TV as you know it good bye as well.
              “Breaking News,”

              “Something irrelevant in your life just happened and now we are going to blow it all out of proportion for days to keep you distracted from what's really going on.”

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              • #8
                Net neutrality rules passed by US regulator

                New rules on how the internet should be governed have been approved by the Federal Communications Commission.

                In what is seen as a victory for advocates of net neutrality, the commission voted in favour of changes proposed by chairman Tom Wheeler.

                Three commissioners voted in favour and two against.

                The US Telecommunications Industry Association said that broadband providers would take "immediate" legal action over the rule changes.

                The main changes for broadband providers are as follows:

                • Broadband access is being reclassified as a telecommunications service, meaning it will be subject to much heavier regulation
                • Broadband providers cannot block or speed up connections for a fee
                • Internet providers cannot strike deals with content firms, known as paid prioritisation, for smoother delivery of traffic to consumers
                • Interconnection deals, where content companies pay broadband providers to connect to their networks, will also be regulated
                • Firms which feel that unjust fees have been levied can complain to the FCC. Each one will be dealt with on a case by case basis
                • All of the rules will also apply to mobile providers as well as fixed line providers
                • The FCC won't apply some sections of the new rules, including price controls
                BBC - Full Article

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                • #9
                  There is a very funny video excursis on Net Neutrality and plea to do public comments to the FCC from back in Jun 2014 in the following article.

                  John Oliver makes the issue fairly easy for a dummy like me to understand. I think that the FCC has done the right thing. But it will supposedly be headed for the Supreme Court.
                  The battle over net neutrality has been going on since before Columbia professor Tim Wu coined the term in 2003. But it didn't reach the national zeitgeist until June 1, 2014.

                  That's the night that John Oliver's Last Week Tonight hit its stride, and net neutrality broke into the public consciousness — went viral, even. Oliver's pointed explainer on net neutrality and call to arms has been viewed more than eight million times, it prompted a flood of four million almost entirely pro–net neutrality comments to the Federal Communications Commission, and it's so good it's worth watching again
                  http://theweek.com/articles/541064/n...at-comcast-gop
                  Homo homini lupus

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                  • #10
                    But, on the plus side, it looks like the FCC won't be able to put this in action before Obama leaves office. There are already dozens of ISP's that are lining up to protest the rules and sue the government over them. Predictions are it will take better than a year at the earliest to get them imposed.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                      OWS was a bunch of delusional Lefties. ...
                      Yeah, well, we didn't exactly reach out and try to show them the light, did we?


                      If the basic Americans won't even try to find common ground and pull together, evil crap like the above is all we can expect from the future.
                      And its only going to get worse.
                      We are playing right into their hands.
                      "Why is the Rum gone?"

                      -Captain Jack

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
                        Yeah, well, we didn't exactly reach out and try to show them the light, did we?


                        If the basic Americans won't even try to find common ground and pull together, evil crap like the above is all we can expect from the future.
                        And its only going to get worse.
                        We are playing right into their hands.
                        And meanwhile, Obama;s Axis of Evil now controls the internet. One step closer to his dream of a totally socialist state with himself as Premier.
                        Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
                          Yeah, well, we didn't exactly reach out and try to show them the light, did we?


                          If the basic Americans won't even try to find common ground and pull together, evil crap like the above is all we can expect from the future.
                          And its only going to get worse.
                          We are playing right into their hands.
                          The Left has an advantage over the Right in politics and government. The Left is fairly uniform in thought, rigid in dogma, and wants lots of control of things. The Right is composed of individuals most of whom want to be left the hell alone. It has a freedom and diversity of thought and ideas the Left finds not just terrifying but evil. For the Left, the Right is everything that opposes their rise to power. The Right on the other hand doesn't give a damn about the Left and sees them as nutters. It isn't until it is too late that the Right will start to do something about the rise of totalitarianism on the Left.
                          Like the proverbial frog in the pot as the water slowly gets hotter the Right generally doesn't recognize the danger to freedom the Left poses until it is too late.

                          For the Left, "fair and equal" means wealth redistribution, suppressing the successful, playing to the lowest common denominator, and in general controlling everyone's life in detail. In the Left's world everyone is a winner and everyone gets a crappy meaningless trophy for just showing up.

                          For the Right, "fair and equal" means you have the same opportunity to succeed or fail as everyone else. There are winners and losers. Not everyone gets a prize. Your life is what you make of it not what others hand you.

                          The Left = bland mediocrity and a meaningless life spent relatively painlessly.

                          The Right = A roller coaster ride through life. For some it will be a thrill, others a terror, but in the end it is a life spent the way you chose to spend it.

                          Last edited by T. A. Gardner; 27 Feb 15, 12:26.

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                          • #14
                            Well done, TAG, all too true.

                            Ins't there some way to stop this?

                            The FCC, I mean, its illegal as hell..... does that even mean anything at all anymore?
                            "Why is the Rum gone?"

                            -Captain Jack

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
                              The FCC, I mean, its illegal as hell..... does that even mean anything at all anymore?
                              Which specific sections of the Federal Code is it violating?

                              I'm not a fan of this development, but its going to be resolved via case law.
                              Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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