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    Luis Enrique Monroy Bracamontes who killed two police officers in California is on trial. The article below never mentions that Bracamontes, 34, is also a Mexican national, illegally living in the US, and has previous deportations.


    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/...ka?ocid=SMSDHP

    Instead it says this about him:

    Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty for the Utah man, who is charged with killing two deputies during an hourslong rampage in October that also left a motorist and another deputy wounded.
    http://www.gopusa.com/news/2014/12/1...ling-deputies/

    Luis Enrique Monroy Bracamontes, the 34-year-old Mexican national...

    Bracamontes, who listened to the proceedings through a Spanish interpreter while standing inside a cell in the courtroom...
    Bracamontes, who lived in the Salt Lake City area, has entered the United States illegally repeatedly and has a history that includes at least four arrests in Arizona on drug and weapons charges. Federal officials say Bracamontes, who used numerous aliases, had been deported at least twice but continued to enter the country illegally.
    That's more like your average illegal alien, not the fanciful "Dreamers" that Obama so blithely mentions. He is also typical of the sort of illegal ICE isn't even bothering to try and track down and get off the streets let alone out of the country.

  • #2
    Why bother, when Obama just sets them free again?

    Instead, let's charge Obama as an accessory to multiple murders.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
      Luis Enrique Monroy Bracamontes who killed two police officers in California is on trial. The article below never mentions that Bracamontes, 34, is also a Mexican national, illegally living in the US, and has previous deportations.


      http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/...ka?ocid=SMSDHP

      Instead it says this about him:



      http://www.gopusa.com/news/2014/12/1...ling-deputies/








      That's more like your average illegal alien, not the fanciful "Dreamers" that Obama so blithely mentions. He is also typical of the sort of illegal ICE isn't even bothering to try and track down and get off the streets let alone out of the country.
      It mentions clearly, the first article, that he was there illegally, had been deported and come back.

      Bracamontes is a Mexican national with a long criminal history who had been deported several times and was in the country illegally at the time of the slayings
      http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/...ka?ocid=SMSDHP

      Are you suggesting that the average illegal immigrant is a murderer and violent criminal?
      "Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it"
      G.B Shaw

      "They promised us homes fit for heroes, they give us heroes fit for homes."
      Grandad, Only Fools and Horses

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      • #4
        Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
        Luis Enrique Monroy Bracamontes who killed two police officers in California is on trial. The article below never mentions that Bracamontes, 34, is also a Mexican national, illegally living in the US, and has previous deportations.


        http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/...ka?ocid=SMSDHP

        Instead it says this about him:



        http://www.gopusa.com/news/2014/12/1...ling-deputies/








        That's more like your average illegal alien, not the fanciful "Dreamers" that Obama so blithely mentions. He is also typical of the sort of illegal ICE isn't even bothering to try and track down and get off the streets let alone out of the country.
        Where do you get your reality? He is EXACTLY the kind of illegal the admin is prioritizing....

        From your link:

        Bracamontes is a Mexican national with a long criminal history who had been deported several times and was in the country illegally at the time of the slayings.
        He is a Priority 1 for deportation.

        http://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/fil...discretion.pdf

        Priority 1 (threats to national security, border security, and public safety) Aliens described in this priority represent the highest priority to which enforcement resources should be directed:
        (a) aliens engaged in or suspected of terrorism or espionage, or who otherwise pose a danger to national security;
        (b) aliens apprehended at the border or ports of entry while attempting to unlawfully enter the United States;
        (c) aliens convicted of an offense for which an element was active participation in a criminal street gang, as defined in 18 U.S.C. § 52 l(a), or aliens not younger than 16 years of age who intentionally participated in an organized criminal gang to further the illegal activity of the gang;
        (d) aliens convicted of an offense classified as a felony in the convicting jurisdiction, other than a state or local offense for which an essential element was the alien's immigration status; and
        (e) aliens convicted of an "aggravated felony," as that term is defined in section 101(a)(43) of the Immigration and Nationality Act at the time of the conviction.
        “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
        “To talk of many things:
        Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
        Of cabbages—and kings—
        And why the sea is boiling hot—
        And whether pigs have wings.”
        ― Lewis Carroll

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
          Where do you get your reality? He is EXACTLY the kind of illegal the admin is prioritizing....

          From your link:



          He is a Priority 1 for deportation.

          http://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/fil...discretion.pdf
          He is the sort that ICE just admitted they were having issues because of administration policy over just as in the Apolinar Altamirano case in Mesa Arizona shows.

          http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/...abrk/22152235/

          ICE stated that their current policy is to err on the side of release right now. In that case they let a man with a felony record, two restraining orders against him, and reentry be released on bail. He was roaming the US for almost two years before he shot the store clerk, awaiting his deportation hearing.

          That is ICE's actual carrying out of policy as this administration has given them direction to do. Bracamontes is the same thing. They aren't looking for him and would do nothing to arrest him unless he committed another crime and some local law enforcement agency contacted them about his arrest. They would do nothing if he got a driver's license, or other documentation that this administration has pushed to allow illegals to obtain.

          Sergio:
          It mentions clearly, the first article, that he was there illegally, had been deported and come back.
          At the end, almost as an after thought. It clearly downplays his illegal status and his criminal record.

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          • #6
            The bottom line is that the majority of illegals in the U.S. are otherwise law abiding citizens. They have to be because getting arrested for anything raises the chances of deportation. But there is also a hard criminal element among them. It is hardly a majority, but the ICE still needs to be manned and funded to deal with it. That is both the Administration's and Congress's responsibility, and so far they have proven inept, with the Congress IMHO bearing the majority of blame.
            dit: Lirelou

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            • #7
              Originally posted by lirelou View Post
              The bottom line is that the majority of illegals in the U.S. are otherwise law abiding citizens. They have to be because getting arrested for anything rises the chances of deportation. But there is also a hard criminal element among them. It is hardly a majority, but the ICE still needs to be manned and funded to deal with it. That is Congress's responsibility, and so far they have proven inept.
              Its less ICE's issue that it is state & local LE agencies. what is needed is better information-sharing between ICE and state & local agencies because the latter are the ones who actually deal with the criminal illegals.

              Frankly, I do not approve of deporting criminal aliens until after they have served their sentence. in the border states the deportation in lieu of prosecution amounts to a get out of jail free card.
              Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by lirelou View Post
                The bottom line is that the majority of illegals in the U.S. are otherwise law abiding citizens. They have to be because getting arrested for anything raises the chances of deportation. But there is also a hard criminal element among them. It is hardly a majority, but the ICE still needs to be manned and funded to deal with it. That is both the Administration's and Congress's responsibility, and so far they have proven inept, with the Congress IMHO bearing the majority of blame.
                Actually, the majority are not "...otherwise law abiding citizens." Illegals are twice as likely to commit a felony. They are 70% more likely to commit a violent felony. They go to prison for felonies at twice the rate legal immigrants and citizens do.
                There used to be a study by the CBO you could pull up (it seems to have disappeared) that looked at just over 100,000 cases of illegals and deportation. The average illegal had 7 criminal charges against them, almost 100% had at least one serious criminal charge.
                The myth is that illegals are mostly just like legal immigrants. But, that isn't the truth. Illegals are more likely to be male and younger than 35. They are overwhelmingly poorly educated (about two thirds have less than an 8th grade education and about a third less than a 6th grade education). Those two things alone make them as a block far more likely to engage in criminal activity. And, for the majority of them they get caught doing something from petty misdemeanors, to DUI, to really serious crimes.
                For at least the Mexican population of illegals they generally see being deported as an annoyance rather than a serious obstacle. They will simply come back and continue doing whatever again until deported a second, third, fifth, or whatever time.
                Last year Pinal County Arizona caught one guy that had 13 prior deportations when he was arrested for aggravated DUI.

                Live in Arizona for a while. You'll find that you know more than one person that has been involved in a hit and run or the like with an illegal. I have. My brother has. Most of my friends have.
                Stolen vehicles? Same thing. I know more than one person whose vehicle was stolen and later found either in Mexico or wrecked and abandoned in the desert somewhere in Southern Arizona after being used for illegal border crossing purposes.

                This is not a population coming here "just to work." They may work but they are also likely to engage in questionable or illegal activity.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
                  Where do you get your reality? He is EXACTLY the kind of illegal the admin is prioritizing....
                  If there is anything that we have all learned these past 6 years is that what the Administration says it will do and what it actually does are two completely different things.
                  "I don't discuss sitting presidents," Mattis tells NPR in an interview. "I believe that you owe a period of quiet."

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                    This is not a population coming here "just to work." They may work but they are also likely to engage in questionable or illegal activity.
                    I would describe them as 'coming to look for money', and while most work, they are just as susceptible to the lure of easy money as anyone, and normally a lot more desperate.
                    Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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