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  • DEA and BATF tracking us all..

    There are few times the NRA and the Civil Liberty Union are on the same side. This is one of those times. Tracking drug dealers is one thing, tracking everyone who attends a gun show is a bit over the top.
    There are gun shows at our state fair grounds every three months, the same day they have the flea market. So now they track anyone driving into the parking lot.....

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-...eal/ar-AA8J9kW

    Federal agencies tried to use vehicle license-plate readers to track the travel patterns of Americans on a much wider scale than previously thought, with new documents showing the technology was proposed for use to monitor public meetings.

    The American Civil Liberties Union released more documents this week revealing for the first time the potential scale of a massive database containing the data of millions of drivers, logged from automatic license plate readers around the US.

    As President Obama’s nominee for attorney general prepared for a second day of confirmation hearings in Washington, senior lawmakers also called on the US Justice Department to show “greater transparency and oversight”.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-...eal/ar-AA8J9kW
    Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.

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    In AZ things like this are legal...

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    • #3
      Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
      In AZ things like this are legal...

      That would negate the whole purpose of having a plate, wouldnt it..? Further reading.....http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/28/02354.htm

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      • #4
        Supposingly, this was just a proposal. Reality, they have the ability to track nearly everyone through your cell phone, smart phone, smart TV, internet enabled laptops, tablets, etc... newer vehicle via on board tracking systems, numerous security cameras already in place in most cities and businesses, all credit card transactions, anyplace there is an electronic fingerprint of your presence.

        Locally, the stupid teen that thought he could make an anonymous threat to blow up an area school, was tracked and arrested hours later.
        “Breaking News,”

        “Something irrelevant in your life just happened and now we are going to blow it all out of proportion for days to keep you distracted from what's really going on.”

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        • #5
          Originally posted by SRV Ron View Post
          Supposingly, this was just a proposal. Reality, they have the ability to track nearly everyone through your cell phone, smart phone, smart TV, internet enabled laptops, tablets, etc... newer vehicle via on board tracking systems, numerous security cameras already in place in most cities and businesses, all credit card transactions, anyplace there is an electronic fingerprint of your presence.

          Locally, the stupid teen that thought he could make an anonymous threat to blow up an area school, was tracked and arrested hours later.
          Makes you wonder, why can't they track the bad guys and stop them instead of wasting time with the rest of us?
          Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
            Makes you wonder, why can't they track the bad guys and stop them instead of wasting time with the rest of us?
            It is used. At least in SA a few arrested ha e come from all this tracking.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Darth Holliday View Post
              That would negate the whole purpose of having a plate, wouldnt it..? Further reading.....http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/28/02354.htm
              I live in Arizona. I see those sorts of plates all the time.

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              • #8
                In upstate NY we have a better plan
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jonny87kz View Post
                  In upstate NY we have a better plan
                  Same here in Michigan. Also lots of driving down muddy roads will give the same effect.
                  “Breaking News,”

                  “Something irrelevant in your life just happened and now we are going to blow it all out of proportion for days to keep you distracted from what's really going on.”

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
                    Makes you wonder, why can't they track the bad guys and stop them instead of wasting time with the rest of us?
                    The 17 year old is lucky. He will get probation, but, has lost his computer and cell phone and will be denied all Internet access per the terms of his probation.
                    “Breaking News,”

                    “Something irrelevant in your life just happened and now we are going to blow it all out of proportion for days to keep you distracted from what's really going on.”

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                      I live in Arizona. I see those sorts of plates all the time.
                      Except you said they were legal....

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                      • #12
                        Its ATF. They stopped being the bat f*gs in the 80s.

                        Forget the Feds. The people who are best at tracking you are corporate entities and private contractors. You go to police cons and every third booth is selling data services of one sort or another. You can pay by the job or sign a contract for a bulk rate.

                        They do a better job because unlike the police or even the Feds, they have almost no legal constraints (the Net is unregulated).

                        1984 had it all wrong-you don't need to make it mandatory for people to have plates on their walls. Cell phones, TV, computers, laptops, tablets, game platforms, baby monitors, wireless security systems...the list just keeps growing.

                        With data filtering largely unregulated, its a whole new world.
                        Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
                          Makes you wonder, why can't they track the bad guys and stop them instead of wasting time with the rest of us?
                          THAT is the million dollar question, isn't it? My guess is because the bad guys don't meekly cooperate.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Darth Holliday View Post
                            Except you said they were legal....
                            They are sold here, people have them on vehicles, and I've never heard of anyone getting stopped for it.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                              They are sold here, people have them on vehicles, and I've never heard of anyone getting stopped for it.
                              Not sure how you would be notified for any stops or citations..but ok..

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