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  • The Climate change cartel is proof of the old saying it is easy to part a fool from his money.
    We hunt the hunters

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    • The NOAA reports that the hole in the ozone layer at the South Pole is the smallest on record this year. But, they say the reason for this is not due to the CFC ban or climate change, but rather to unusually warm weather at the South Pole in the upper atmosphere.

      https://www.noaa.gov/news/2019-ozone...-ever-recorded

      What the article doesn't say and I'm curious about, is that temperature and the hole's size seem to track, yet no one appears to be doing any research on this. If this were to prove to be true, it could overturn the CFC theory entirely. We'll certainly know in the coming decades I bet.

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      • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
        University ousts professor who defied climate-change narrative on polar bears

        ...
        Nobody has done more to sink the claim that climate change is endangering polar bears than zoologist Susan Crockford — and she may have paid for it with her job.

        After 15 years as an adjunct assistant professor, Ms. Crockford said the University of Victoria refused without explanation in May to renew her contract, despite her high profile as a speaker and author stemming from her widely cited research on polar bears and dog domestication.

        Ms. Crockford accused officials at the Canadian university of bowing to “outside pressure,” the result of her research showing that polar bear populations are stable and even thriving, not plummeting as a result of shrinking Arctic sea ice, defying claims of the climate change movement.

        Her dismissal, which she announced Wednesday in a post on her Polar Bear Science blog, has spurred alarm over the implications for academic freedom and the rise of the “cancel culture” for professors and scientists who challenge climate catastrophe predictions.

        “When push came to shove, UVic threw me under the bus rather than stand up for my academic freedom,” said Ms. Crockford, who earned a Ph.D. in interdisciplinary studies, specifically biology and anthropology, in 2004.
        ...
        The statement fell short of denying that Ms. Crockford’s dismissal was linked to her polar bear scholarship, which almost single-handedly blew up the climate change movement’s promotion of the bears as iconic victims of anthropogenic global warming.

        Her books include “The Polar Bear Catastrophe That Never Happened,” published in February, in which she said the bears are not threatened. She noted that the International Union for Conservation of Nature’s 2015 Red List of Threatened Species puts polar bear numbers at 22,000 to 31,000 despite a widespread belief that the population has dropped to a few thousand.

        ‘Cancel culture’ and academic freedom

        Marc Morano, author of “The Politically Incorrect Guide to Climate Change,” said situations like Ms. Crockford’s have become “all too common in the climate debate.”

        He cited examples of prominent scientists who “came out” as skeptics only after retiring.

        “Professor after professor has been hounded, silenced, censured or fired for speaking out against the approved man-made climate crisis narrative,” Mr. Morano said. “The message to any climate dissenters in academia is once again reinforced: Stay silent with your skepticism or risk endangering your career.”

        University of Victoria economics professor Cornelis van Kooten warned of the threat to free speech on campus. “I think the climate change movement has done extreme harm to academic freedom,” he said, and the movement isn’t alone.

        “Put it this way: religion, race, evolution, gender, indigenous peoples, nuclear power, polar bears, deforestation. … Any views on these topics that don’t fall in line with the ‘consensus’ are taboo,” Mr. van Kooten said in an email. “Think the extent to which free speech has been banned from campuses across much of the West in the name of political correctness.”
        ...
        http://www.gopusa.com/?p=78043?omhide=true

        The "flat earth"ers are back and growing in numbers and influence/intimidation.
        \\\\\\i skimmed through Professor Crockford's work, and read the interesting summary of her conclusions in the latest Canadian Geographic.
        \she is right that the polar bear population in the high arctic is increasing , esp. the Davis Strait population.\
        \Her conclusions about the Hudson and James \bay populations is disputed.
        The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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        • Astronomy is a far older, more established science than "climatology", plus have a lot more instruments, more record of data and supposedly better "models", yet ...

          How Can a Star Be Older Than the Universe?

          By David Crookes - All About Space magazine 4 days ago Space
          Space Mysteries: If the universe is 13.8 billion years old, how can a star be more than 14 billion years old?

          https://www.livescience.com/how-can-...-universe.html

          So how can it be that they have a conundrum like this?
          And if something seemingly this fundamental is causing contradictions, doesn't provide much endorsement for the "science" involved in ACC/AGW it would seem.

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          • Originally posted by Jutland View Post

            Few things....

            1. Her contract wasn't renewed, your own article mentions that. Not really being 'ousted' is it.......
            "After 15 years as an adjunct assistant professor..."
            She's no longer "in" but is now "out",
            Guess Canada doesn't have the tenure process that most USA universities does.

            Originally posted by Jutland View Post
            2. None of her Polar Bear work has been peer reviewed, so yes whilst it has been widely 'cited' by Climate Change Denial Blogs she isn't an authority on that particular issue....she is just another blogger.
            Guess you didn't read the article or grasp the second half of the excerpt, where it explains how going against the consensus/majority opinion of one's "peers" means you likely won't get much positive "review" ...

            Originally posted by Jutland View Post
            And there are a few other things but I don't want to start attacking the character of a lady I know very little about....
            You're off to a fairly good start already on that, so please share your delusions ...

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            • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
              "After 15 years as an adjunct assistant professor..."
              She's no longer "in" but is now "out",
              Guess Canada doesn't have the tenure process that most USA universities does.



              Guess you didn't read the article or grasp the second half of the excerpt, where it explains how going against the consensus/majority opinion of one's "peers" means you likely won't get much positive "review" ...



              You're off to a fairly good start already on that, so please share your delusions ...
              |facts, instead of delusions...
              \while the latest Hudson bay
              West polar bear count is 1,016 bears off the ice in 2019, the cub count is less than 60 this fall, which indicates a high failure rate among the \female polar bear population. at least 150 viable cubs a year are required to offset mortality, which is high , esp. among young bears.

              https://www.ontario.ca/page/polar-bear
              The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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              • Peer review is as likely as not to be utter BS and worthless. As an example of that-- this being a history board-- I sent a long very critical email to John Mosier, the author of The Blitzkrieg Myth, among several titles in military history he wrote. Mosier was at the time an English professor at Loyola University.
                My email was specific in examples of how his analysis was an utter fail. I called his bibliography, to the effect, "A sampling of common popular sources and coffee table (ie., books with lots of shiny pictures) books with no depth."

                His response to me was essentially You aren't a PhD or academic, and my book was peer reviewed. If it was the latter, it wasn't by anyone who actually read it and was knowledgeable on the subject of World War 2 because it was that bad. The first retort he made is nothing but a logical fallacy appeal to authority. Mosier's book was on the level of Martin Caidin's The Tigers are Burning.

                I've since seen him used as an "expert" on some history shows on television on military subjects. I'm even less impressed listening to him.

                But, there's plenty of studies and such out there that bring serious question to the peer review process, it's objectivity, and even it's credibility. Thus, when somebody says "It's been peer reviewed..." I take that now as a logical fallacy in the same vein, as being nothing but an appeal to authority. That is, peer review is essentially meaningless.

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                • Originally posted by marktwain View Post

                  |facts, instead of delusions...
                  \while the latest Hudson bay
                  West polar bear count is 1,016 bears off the ice in 2019, the cub count is less than 60 this fall, which indicates a high failure rate among the \female polar bear population. at least 150 viable cubs a year are required to offset mortality, which is high , esp. among young bears.

                  https://www.ontario.ca/page/polar-bear
                  One population subset out of the global whole ...
                  ... meanwhile the PROOF that this is caused by human activities is ???

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                  • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

                    One population subset out of the global whole ...
                    ... meanwhile the PROOF that this is caused by human activities is ???
                    \
                    thatt,I know not.
                    It has been long decades since I was in the High \arctic. However, on Oct 3 /1986, we flew into Resolute, and the sea Ice was solid, and the \white |bears were hunting.

                    ON |Oct SEVENTH, the sea at cambridge bay froze far into the Dolphin and Union, and the Nanook left for their seals.
                    \
                    today:

                    https://www.canada.ca/en/environment...onditions.html
                    \the seas at \Cambridge |bay are wide open:
                    The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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                    • ^ Not disputing that conditions change, it's the cause that seems the main issue.
                      BTW, what was ice extent in say 1996 and 2006 of this time of year?

                      15,000 years ago where I live now was covered in mile thick ice, that is now gone.
                      I doubt the cause then for either the ice sheet or it's sudden melt was anthropogenic.

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                      • [QUOTE=G David Bock;n5149481]
                        "After 15 years as an adjunct assistant professor..."
                        She's no longer "in" but is now "out",
                        Guess Canada doesn't have the tenure process that most USA universities does. [QUOTE]

                        'Adjunct' , you do realise that means she was on the non-tenure track for 15 years? She was always on a shaky peg.




                        Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                        Guess you didn't read the article or grasp the second half of the excerpt, where it explains how going against the consensus/majority opinion of one's "peers" means you likely won't get much positive "review" ...

                        Unfortunately peer reviewed work is a vital part of an academic career, if you don't produce then you get cut............



                        Originally posted by G David Bock
                        You're off to a fairly good start already on that, so please share your delusions ...
                        No delusions just opinions based on research and analysis... you should try it some time.

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                        • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                          ^ Not disputing that conditions change, it's the cause that seems the main issue.
                          BTW, what was ice extent in say 1996 and 2006 of this time of year?

                          15,000 years ago where I live now was covered in mile thick ice, that is now gone.
                          I doubt the cause then for either the ice sheet or it's sudden melt was anthropogenic.
                          \the difficulty is that the white \bears are so highly specialised to hunt marine mammals. a loss of three weeks to freeze up, plus another three weeks due to early melt, means six weeks out of six to eight months less time to fatten up.
                          \the Hudson bay sub populations may have benefited form the increased \Atlantic Orcas making the seasonal transit through the \\\\\\\\\\\\\Hudson \strait, as belugas are clustering in shallow estuaries. \speculation is that dead or injured belugas attacked by orcas are becoming shore chow for summer bears....

                          https://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/species-es...index-eng.html
                          Last edited by marktwain; 24 Oct 19, 21:49.
                          The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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                          • https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...toba-1.3880806
                            More on
                            orcas vrs beluga whales in Hudson bay.
                            Last edited by marktwain; 24 Oct 19, 19:44.
                            The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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                            • [QUOTE=Jutland;n5149554][QUOTE=G David Bock;n5149481]
                              "After 15 years as an adjunct assistant professor..."
                              She's no longer "in" but is now "out",
                              Guess Canada doesn't have the tenure process that most USA universities does.

                              'Adjunct' , you do realise that means she was on the non-tenure track for 15 years? She was always on a shaky peg.







                              Unfortunately peer reviewed work is a vital part of an academic career, if you don't produce then you get cut............





                              No delusions just opinions based on research and analysis... you should try it some time.
                              Though she wouldn't have been the only one in such similar circumstances. Others like her await to see if they willmove on towards a tenure track.

                              The "ousted" term was that of the author of the article/link and you may want to take your quibble to them.

                              As pointed out in the article/link "peer review" is often far from objective nor an accurate gauge on validity of an article/concept. Most often it just reflects the "politically correct" consensus/majority opinions/views of an established thought line. See Galileo and how he was "peer reviewed" for one example.

                              I do data and math, not opinion/consensus, in my approach to science and related, you might want to try that BTW.

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                              • Global Warming is simply to convenient to be accepted at face value. Free the models :-)
                                We hunt the hunters

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